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John-467

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How Did This Post Get Over Here?

This post was originally posted in the "Mature Man" part of the discussion forum but I'm assuming since I'm not at the proper age yet, I can't post a thread there.

If I knew this post was going to end up over here, I would NOT have made it.

Thanks to Str8up and the others who UNDERSTAND what I'm talking about. Your time invested in this thread was not wasted, I learn a lot from you all the time.

DJF
 

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Ahh man Ive been avoiding this whole issue for ages on this forum here but finally someone with the balls to say it has posted it up.

I think this ties into what people say is the meaning of life, your either going to understand or call people that do get this crazy and weird and just spit on them for being different.

Interceptor, man no one really cares about who you re and what you do like in all brutal honesty I wouldn't give a damn about you unless you had some direct impact on my life. Call my self centred and harsh but thats the way it is.

And to all the people that don't understand what the OP is on about all you have to do is take yourself out of the picture take out your emotions and look at it as if you were making a movie and you are the main actor, what does the story tell you about your character and how other people interact with him.

I'm at the point of breaking out of the 95 world and into the 5 world, and guess what my methods are not always clean, people have seen what I can do and are always trying to bring me down or telling me its a waste of time and money. Yet its the same fools that come begging to borrow money off me when their sh!t hits the fan. Some even go to the extent to "be your friend" just to get something out of you.

Your either going to get this or not get this ............ most women don't get this I'm sorry you just don't. Its a cold harsh brutal world out there and it really is survival of the fittest.
 

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This type of viewpoint is verging on psychotic. Half of this board is the male equivalent of aleksis k and her vagina power.

I understand what you're talking about, and I used to think the same way. I read a lot of seduction theory, tips, tricks and emotional models explaining why people do the things they do.

And it makes sense a lot of the time, but there's no matrix. There's just a world of people trying to follow their desires and make themselves happy. Unfortunately people don't always know what they want, and a lot of the time relationships won't work out because of this.

It ultimately comes down to finding out who you really are, and what you want from life. If you need to fill your ego by becoming a master of seduction, or by purporting to understand a different world -a better viewpoint only available to the elite- then you should do so. If you need to lay scores of different women because it's truly what you want or need, then that should indeed be your goal. But if, like me, you could care less about being able to seduce the socks off your local bar, and are happy to hold a meaningful relationship with someone you love (because that's what makes you happy, regardless of pointless analysis on reasons for you behaviour), then that is what you should do, too.

Being alone and unhappy just because you don't like the reasons for what we do, or because your pride won't let you fall in love, is frankly ridiculous. y'all need to grow up.

edit - don't bother to tell me I'm in the 95%, i know. And i'm happy with that.
 

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I've been thinking over something similar the last months,first of all it is my firm belief that anyone has the capacity to do/become anything.With that in mind the question is born, why isn't everyone a rockstar/millionaire/actor/whatever?

So far my answer is that people can be loosely categorized in 2 categories,those that work today for the big results in the future and those that just "enjoy" (in a materialistic-lethargic way) today but end up with nothing in the long run.

The more time time/effort you invest in something the more you get.A couple more significant factors are luck and "talent/genes" which are beneficial but not necessary.

Strength of character plays an important role also,not only do you need a strong frame of mind to achieve anything in the first place but reading the OPs post is seems like one of his major concerns is that he can't "trust" people.

Well and i tell you WHY do you want to "trust" anyone? Be independent,achieve by yourself and soon you'll see that you're just going to use everyone like you think they're doing to you.Why do you want to share your problems with anybody? The only logical explanation is to relieve pressure -not actually find a solution - and that's something chicks do,if you wanna rant there's sosuave.. :p

My erm...2? cents
 

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This thread is ridiculous and making the world black and white. What's the cut off point for the 5%? How do we know it's 95/5? Did someone take a poll? Is the 5% different or better or worse? Doesn't nearly everyone think they are in the 5%? How can that be? Maybe neither "world" is a good option, and we should all just live and let live, celebrating humanity and our place in it.
 

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this world is full of people making their own decisions based upon their own perceptions of reality.

it's true that not everyone falls into the black and whiteness..but who has the right to call one way psychotic? who has a right to call the other way wrong?


without the sheep, the leaders would overflow and nothing would be accomplished.

but then again..from their perspective...life can be about hedonism and glorification of the moment.


it's all what you believe and feel.

I'm with you, whoever started this thread, about a very thin percentage feeling out of place in this mainstream culture.


if you take an hour to reflect and really disconnect yourself from the world...


you just might have a totally different vantage point.

this is when you become empowered and enlightened.


this is where self-perception, universal perception, etc. and so forth, merge, and everything about your life flows and feels right. keep going man.


people hate because they don't understand..they hate because they don't get it.


keep thinking the way you think...don't worry if people call you crazy..you're doing what you need to do to become alive.

alive above the confines of the extremely thin line between mortality and universality
 

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BadAssMoFo said:
it's all what you believe and feel.
that's entirely what i said in the last half of my post. Just to clarify.
 

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glad you caught onto the fact that i was, for the most part, agreeing with you
 

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John-467 said:
World Number Two, this is a world where there ARE masculine men and feminine women. The men are busy taking down the world and making it better, and the women are busy supporting those men. This world moves the world as a whole, almost CHANGES the whole damn scene at a snap of a finger. This is the world that I want to live in, this is the world that I must get to. But I just have a hard time finding it physically. My soul and spirit belongs to this world....yet my body is trapped in World Number One.

I get laid, but the women hate me.
I am respected by other men, but if a woman gets offended and says, "Kill that bastard," I'll have 7 guys coming after my life.
Business is my heart, I love business. It's all that I do, to me it's the only escape from this world.

At times I chose to just NOT go after women anymore in this world, because I know that either I will get laid all over the place, but what good does that do, when no one in this world actually likes you? It's a different scenery. You have fans, you have women that will fvck your brains out, and you have guys that respect you a lot....but you know in your damn soul that these people are NOT YOUR FRIENDS, they will take you down in a snap! This realization makes me distant and makes me not go around people at ALL.

I know I'm not crazy, and I know that what I am speaking of is real.....however there's no one I can talk to about this. When I talk to people about this....it's either:

- Get over it
- It's all in your head
- Just go finish getting laid.

I'm posting this in this Mature Man section, because I see posters like joekerr and others posting here....and I think that you guys know just what the fvck I'm talking about. I don't make posts much asking for things, but I'm asking, "Somebody just fvckin explain this shyt to me!"

I'm nothing like this environment! Nothing!
I can get laid, and I can have "friends" but NONE of these people like me....NONE.

And I just need some explaination on this, does anybody know what I'm talking about?

-DJF
I've been feeling and thinking the same way for a longtime myself man. So this post hits home in alot of ways. We're both the same age as well. Aint that somethin.
 

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