I think we're missing the point

[Debonair_5]

After literally reading The Game by Neil Strauss in two days and reading and perusing this site. I'm interested, actually intrigued. Style in the book said something very interesting: "After all the women we had and the fame, I felt empty inside" I wonder, being the best we can be must entail more than women or ostensibly more than possessions. It was to the point where Style said he felt like a misogynist where he used women to his own advances. Even Mystery was miserable. In your own personal experiences have your views toward women changed/ views toward your outcomes in what you want in life? And ultimately, are you happy?

 

[Solomon]

After literally reading The Game by Neil Strauss in two days and reading and perusing this site. I'm interested, actually intrigued. Style in the book said something very interesting: "After all the women we had and the fame, I felt empty inside" I wonder, being the best we can be must entail more than women or ostensibly more than possessions. It was to the point where Style said he felt like a misogynist where he used women to his own advances. Even Mystery was miserable. In your own personal experiences have your views toward women changed/ views toward your outcomes in what you want in life? And ultimately, are you happy?

Great thread

When I first started, I just wanted to get better, and I did, however the problem with seduction is you get "seduced" yourself. IT came to a point where all my life goals were focused on women, how many women I could get, how many I had, how to get the hotter one. I wasn't fulfilled because I fell into the ego-centric community crap that is being spewed that to be the best you have to always go out and get more chicks, bang hotter chicks etc etc.

My goals have changed now, I honestly feel bad for guys who have been doing this thing for a year or two or more and still don't get it

 

[Soprano]

the ultimate goal in life is happiness and success...how you define that is up to you....me, if i get laid every once in a while, im good...and the rest of my time is spent focusing on business, working out, and having fun. i find sex and doing things with girls fun, but i never knew how to do it before lol which is why i got into this stuff.....i dont think of it as the answer to all of our problems, just a way to achieve more success and happiness

 

[War Against Betaism]

Anyone seen the movie Funny People? In it Adam Sandler is a millionaire who can bang any woman he ever wants, had all of the fame in the world, and still couldn't find happiness. This thread reminded me exactly of that movie.

 

[Warrior74]

Happiness has to come from within. This place and others like it are just training grounds to learn the skills of getting women. It's no different or better than my internet marketing forums where you learn the skills to market online, or my design forums where you learn the skills to create great designs. Thinking it's anything more than that is an exercise in self delusion. Every skill you master makes you a better man, you learn something about yourself while doing it, but it doesn't make it a religion or life goal.

 

[I'm in the Mood]

After literally reading The Game by Neil Strauss in two days and reading and perusing this site. I'm interested, actually intrigued. Style in the book said something very interesting: "After all the women we had and the fame, I felt empty inside" I wonder, being the best we can be must entail more than women or ostensibly more than possessions. It was to the point where Style said he felt like a misogynist where he used women to his own advances. Even Mystery was miserable. In your own personal experiences have your views toward women changed/ views toward your outcomes in what you want in life? And ultimately, are you happy?

I love this concept. Many people who come here think having love/sex in their life will solve all of their problems, but relationships really add on more responsibility and potential problems.

Realize, these guys base their lives around being PUAs and teaching the Art of PUAs. I can perfectly understand how they'd feel hollow about that. I know they wouldn't want to trade lives with other people, but their mindsets are usually focused on women, getting laid and their Art.

I think the truly successful PUAs put their Soul into their Art. Practicing, learning, writing books and teaching others. I think helping other people (for nothing in return) is one of the most admirable things a person can do. I gotta thank my man Craig on this one. I love you dude!

Anyway, maybe these guys thought they've figured it all out, and that leaves a void between them and the path to greatness. It's like the space between us on Earth and the edge of the Universe. Imagine that feeling...We can travel to Mars, but we can't travel to another galaxy. Our journey is over for now. It's ALL over. We have to find a new passion to pursue.

Everyone MUST build their life. The self is too important for a man to ignore.

...And that's why I love my Soul, something which no woman can replace.

 

[recovering]

Great thread!

I got into the pickup game and quickly realized that I was already doing most of the things I needed to do. I just needed to tweek a few things here and there and ended up becoming really good at picking up women.

I eventually got to the point where I felt disappointed if I didn't try picking up every cute girl I came across or interacted with. I literally felt that I didn't succeed unless I went for some type of close. It could be any woman remotely attractive and in any environment.

Now that I'm settled with one woman, I realized that all the work was for the happiness I've found with her. I won't say "in her" because I bring crap to the table too dammit! :-D

Again.. great thread. I hope to read others thoughts on this.

 

[Debonair_5]

I love this concept. Many people who come here think having love/sex in their life will solve all of their problems, but relationships really add on more responsibility and potential problems.

Realize, these guys base their lives around being PUAs and teaching the Art of PUAs. I can perfectly understand how they'd feel hollow about that. I know they wouldn't want to trade lives with other people, but their mindsets are usually focused on women, getting laid and their Art.

I think the truly successful PUAs put their Soul into their Art. Practicing, learning, writing books and teaching others. I think helping other people (for nothing in return) is one of the most admirable things a person can do. I gotta thank my man Craig on this one. I love you dude!

Anyway, maybe these guys thought they've figured it all out, and that leaves a void between them and the path to greatness. It's like the space between us on Earth and the edge of the Universe. Imagine that feeling...We can travel to Mars, but we can't travel to another galaxy. Our journey is over for now. It's ALL over. We have to find a new passion to pursue.

Everyone MUST build their life. The self is too important for a man to ignore.

...And that's why I love my Soul, something which no woman can replace.

Exactly my point. To be a great football player you must play football. Not just play it but think it, engage it, inculcate it. Same thing with being a great student, or professor, artist.....PUA. I'm concerned that many are equating women with inner happiness. Even Style in the book was deeply depressed. He was people leaving work, school, and their families to learn how to pick up women.