I think the mid 30s age range in women is one of the worse to deal with

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Majority of them come with a plan and a dead line, you're scheduled to accomplish various steps according to their timing where you're not even a person but a factor with stats that have to reach and pass a certain threeshold over certain qualities.

First of all they demand payment upfront which means a dinner date in the hope that once you invest, it will be easier for them to both gauge you and trap you.

When sex happens (never early enough), you have no more than a couple of trials then comes the demand to buy a subscription which means starting a formal relationship that not any late than 2-3 months involves going to live togheter.

You dont have the fun, carefree attitude of the girls in their 20s nor you have the simplicity and directness of the women in their 40s that have been married, had kids so now again date for fun (as long as they are self sufficient).

The cost quality ratio for women in their mid 30s is the worse.

 

[BaronOfHair]

You're just now realizing this?

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

You're just now realizing this?

I didnt try to deal with women in their 30s till I approached my 40s, the f did I know about it while dealing with much younger girls.

What are we= your trial is over insert your payment details

 

[BaronOfHair]

I didnt try to deal with women in their 30s till I approached my 40s...

You didn't enjoy a fling with Mrs. Robinson prior to turning 20, eh? NOT fueling the appetites of female pedos has adverse effects on men, the likes of which are rarely discussed

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

Absolutely, the worstttttttt. Desperate, manipulative, jaded, baggage-ridden, disrespectful, and good at weaponizing their beauty.

I have a rule: 18-22 or 38+ NO IN BETWEEN.

The young ones are fun and down for connection, sex, etc.

The 38+ are low drama, don't ask for much, grateful to have u.

Alas, it is some of us who turn them into the middle stage which is where we need to start taking more responsibility but that;s another topic.

 

[Solomon]

Unpopular Take: Mid-30s chicks who just got divorced are the best for short term game if everyone is upfront and no bull**** especially if they just came out of a dead bedroom marriage
Women 35-45 IMO are great for casual, but unless she is high quality, high effort anything long term isn't worth it

 

[GoodMan32]

In that case, I suppose it's no surprise there's only been one 30-something woman I've had free sex with (a 35 year old when I was 21)

My other 8 free partners were either below 25 or over 40

 

[The Duke]

It's like the terrible two's a toddler goes thru!

In her 30's she starts to lose her looks, her biological baby clock starts getting louder, her financial plan or lack of becomes more of an issue, the cluster b issues start to really surface, all her friends are married and she isn't, she can't afford a house, her career isn't much, etc.

I'm glad I'm a man.

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

It's like the terrible two's a toddler goes thru!

In her 30's she starts to lose her looks, her biological baby clock starts getting louder, her financial plan or lack of becomes more of an issue, the cluster b issues start to really surface, all her friends are married and she isn't, she can't afford a house, her career isn't much, etc.

I'm glad I'm a man.

exactly, worst most sad demographic. not even fun to date.

 

[DreamAgain]

Majority of them come with a plan and a dead line, you're scheduled to accomplish various steps according to their timing where you're not even a person but a factor with stats that have to reach and pass a certain threeshold over certain qualities.

First of all they demand payment upfront which means a dinner date in the hope that once you invest, it will be easier for them to both gauge you and trap you.

When sex happens (never early enough), you have no more than a couple of trials then comes the demand to buy a subscription which means starting a formal relationship that not any late than 2-3 months involves going to live togheter.

You dont have the fun, carefree attitude of the girls in their 20s nor you have the simplicity and directness of the women in their 40s that have been married, had kids so now again date for fun (as long as they are self sufficient).

The cost quality ratio for women in their mid 30s is the worse.

You are absolutely correct.

How did you plan your endgame, just never found the right one to lock down long term?

 

[Bokanovsky]

Majority of them come with a plan and a dead line, you're scheduled to accomplish various steps according to their timing where you're not even a person but a factor with stats that have to reach and pass a certain threeshold over certain qualities.

First of all they demand payment upfront which means a dinner date in the hope that once you invest, it will be easier for them to both gauge you and trap you.

When sex happens (never early enough), you have no more than a couple of trials then comes the demand to buy a subscription which means starting a formal relationship that not any late than 2-3 months involves going to live togheter.

You dont have the fun, carefree attitude of the girls in their 20s nor you have the simplicity and directness of the women in their 40s that have been married, had kids so now again date for fun (as long as they are self sufficient).

The cost quality ratio for women in their mid 30s is the worse.

These are "last call" women, so what do you expect? Their chance of starting a family and having kids has been slipping away for the past several years but they did nothing about it due to procrastination or refusal to face reality. But when the realization that the last train is about to leave the station finally sets in, it's full on panic mode. They can't afford to spend another year to "see how things go".

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

These are "last call" women, so what do you expect? Their chance of starting a family and having kids has been slipping away for the past several years but they did nothing about it due to procrastination or refusal to face reality. But when the realization that the last train is about to leave the station finally sets in, it's full on panic mode. They can't afford to spend another year to "see how things go".

The thing is that such approach would work for a work task or a result to reach but not to get a relationship.

Such approach basically turns off any decent man that would feel like he is a tool to be used to accomplish her goal, he suddenly finds himself sucked from a cold calculator with no spontaneity throwing ultimatus...it's basically the opposite of what an adult stable man wants...especially a guy in his mid 30s that wants to have his final ride with a carefree young girl.

Such "military" approach should have worked few years earlier in her late 20s where she still had margin of manouver given a precise will to filter.

 

[Bokanovsky]

The thing is that such approach would work for a work task or a result to reach but not to get a relationship.

Such approach basically turns off any decent man that would feel like he is a tool to be used to accomplish her goal, he suddenly finds himself sucked from a cold calculator with no spontaneity throwing ultimatus...it's basically the opposite of what an adult stable man wants...especially a guy in his mid 30s that wants to have his final ride with a carefree young girl.

Such "military" approach should have worked few years earlier in her late 20s where she still had margin of manouver given a precise will to filter.

Ironically, women in their late 20's tend to be the flakiest. I think it has something to do with them being out of college and enjoying big city life. They think that they still have plenty of you time to settle down and start a family, while in reality they only have a few years and those years go by FAST.