“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I think online dating is my only chance to meet someone I like

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Women online are always thinking. When women are thinking, they are screening.

What do you do for work? How much do you make? Where do you live? Where have you traveled? What are your hobbies? Are you single? Are you really married? Are you trustworthy? Are you just looking for a hook up? Do you want a LTR? Do you have kids? Do you want kids? It goes on and on.....It's a god damn job interview, basically. And this long list of qualifiers all comes pouring in only after you're good enough to even pass her initial looks test
I'm thinking the same thing

Now, clear you mind of all that sh*t and imagine you're standing on a subway platform waiting for a train. You see a woman you find very pretty and she locks eyes with you. You flash a smile, she smiles back and quickly looks away. As you walk over to start a conversation, you know the heat is rushing into her cheeks as she begins to blush. You say hello, she says hi with her cute grin and little bunny voice. The butterflies are now swirling in her stomach....
the odds are about 95% that she will be too old, too young, have kids, be a smoker, have some bullsh*t job, talk like an idiot, have no hobbies, etc... Or she is a light skinned white girl when I strongly prefer Spanish/Greek/Italian/etc...

I'm more picky than most women are
 

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In my opinon 99.9% of the women you describe below are the same exact women you'll be meeting (perceiving) via OLD.

Almost every woman subscribes to OLD at some point.

except in online dating you can filter out all the nonsense

not meet a woman you think is 26 but she is really 33 with 2 kids
 

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women I meet in real life are always

too young
too old
have kids
smoke
drink too much
are stupid
work bullsh*t jobs
can't have an intelligent conversation
have no hobbies
not very classy
etc.... etc... etc... etc....


You guys all talk about approaching women in real life as if it's super easy to find someone very high quality. 99% of women you come across in real life will be nothing decent in terms of the overall package.

at least with online dating, you can filter out the bullsh*t

LOL @ TOO YOUNG!

Not sure what the problem is. I'm 30. A girl 22 gave me a throater. I apologize to absolutely nobody.

A girl at the grocery store asked for my fb. Age 18.

Mad?

Mate, I find I pulled better IRL. Tinder/bumble/online is mostly 6s/7s best. I think swiping right at life is ideal but, i prefer cold approach pickup, gym, bars, clubs, and everywhere.
 

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LOL @ TOO YOUNG!

Not sure what the problem is. I'm 30. A girl 22 gave me a throater. I apologize to absolutely nobody.

A girl at the grocery store asked for my fb. Age 18.

Mad?

Mate, I find I pulled better IRL. Tinder/bumble/online is mostly 6s/7s best. I think swiping right at life is ideal but, i prefer cold approach pickup, gym, bars, clubs, and everywhere.
you think you're going to pick up 8-10/10s in real life???


LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 8-10/10s in real life are looking for movie stars and male models. They understand that they are the absolute top of the social hierarchy - way above even a regular non famous male 8-10/10. Why would they settle for mediocrity?
 

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No they're not.
a female 8-10/10 literally is the absolute top of our social hierarchy. It doesn't matter if she is retarded, has the worst personality in the world, is a complete *****, has zero talents or skills. The fact that she is born a 9/10 means that she will be worshiped by society all the way until her looks fade

Why would she settle for a man way below her league? and yes a male 9/10 without any massive status/fame/etc... is way way below a female 9/10 in our society even if the male is college educated, makes a good living, has a good personality and is intelligent and the female is completely retarded.
 
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a female 8-10/10 literally is the absolute top of our social hierarchy
If you believe this, I feel bad for you. I met a handyman today missing half his teeth and lives in a trailer adjacent to a landfill.

I respect him WAY MORE than any dumb a$$ female. He is literally worth more to the world.

The "value" that is placed on females is so fake that only idiots believe it to be true. Can you imagine if your only asset was how you looked? What kind of pathetic excuse for a human being is that? Females have zero concept of reality and practically zero use to the world. I often wonder how our species has been so successful with 50% of the population being so useless (the female half).

But also, I've seen tons of hot girls who are not with movie stars and male models. They're just as likely to be with an underemployed drug addict.
 

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If you believe this, I feel bad for you
It has nothing to do with what I believe or don't believe. It's the reality of the world dude

A female 8-10/10 can go to any place and get hit on by everybody in sight even if she is completely retarded and can't even form complete sentences.. I'm a male 8/10 with a 10/10 body, a top 0.0001% income for my age, everything in line, extremely intelligent and masculine and I can't even get a woman anywhere near my league to show interest in me.
 
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It has nothing to do with what I believe or don't believe. It's the reality of the world dude

A female 8-10/10 can go to any place and get hit on by everybody in sight even if she is completely retarded and can't even form complete sentences.. I'm a male 8/10 with a 10/10 body, a top 0.0001% income for my age, everything in line, extremely intelligent and masculine and I can't even get a woman anywhere near my league to show interest in me.
If everything you're saying about yourself is true, you should meet the hypergamy standard.

Ever tried giving them money? What good is it just to have it unless they're going to get some of it? Not that I actually recommend this, I'm just guessing.

Girls are stupid as fvck, though. To me, even the hottest girl in the world would get old after a few weeks probably.

I usually just fvck hookers, along with the extremely rare OLD hookup (no date) so I actually spend ZERO time with females that I'm not having sex with them.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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If everything you're saying about yourself is true, you should meet the hypergamy standard.

Ever tried giving them money? What good is it just to have it unless they're going to get some of it? Not that I actually recommend this, I'm just guessing.

Girls are stupid as fvck, though. To me, even the hottest girl in the world would get old after a few weeks probably.

I usually just fvck hookers, along with the extremely rare OLD hookup (no date) so I actually spend ZERO time with females that I'm not having sex with them.
How would i give a woman money? I'm not going to go to a bar and start handing out 100s, that's ridiculous. I do pay for every date (although I almost never get any), I'm extremely generous. If I was to ever date a girl seriously (seems like a ludicrous idea, a woman wanting to be with me long term who is not 50 years old or 50 lbs overweight), I would pay for every date, the house, the food, the bills, everything. She would live with me cost free and only have to take care of her own stuff (her clothes, makeup, that's really about it). I would buy her a car also.


women aren't all as bad as you make it out to be. Some of them are really really cool - my best friend has a 29 year old dentist GF and she is awesome. I love her to death - super easy to get along with, funny, smart, sweet, very supportive of me. My best friend has a 31 year old cousin who is incredibly nice/cool. I love her to death also (she is married). Just because they never like me or you doesn't make them bad people.
 
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How would i give a woman money? I'm not going to go to a bar and start handing out 100s, that's ridiculous. I do pay for every date (although I almost never get any), I'm extremely generous. If I was to ever date a girl seriously (seems like a ludicrous idea, a woman wanting to be with me long term who is not 50 years old or 50 lbs overweight), I would pay for every date, the house, the food, the bills, everything. She would live with me cost free and only have to take care of her own stuff (her clothes, makeup, that's really about it). I would buy her a car also.


women aren't all as bad as you make it out to be. Some of them are really really cool - my best friend has a 29 year old dentist GF and she is awesome. I love her to death - super easy to get along with, funny, smart, sweet, very supportive of me. My best friend has a 31 year old cousin who is incredibly nice/cool. I love her to death also (she is married). Just because they never like me or you doesn't make them bad people.
A lot of girls have liked me, though.

I've created "initial attraction" so many times I can't even count. I also can't count how many times a girl has tried to start a conversation with me. I just usually don't do anything with it. I'm not the greatest conversationalist in the world. Terrible at "small talk" and "getting to know someone." I feel like I already know them before I even meet them. I've seen possibly 100 million people in my life. I don't think I'll meet anyone who is any more than human.

How to spend money? Hookers.
 

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A lot of girls have liked me, though.

I've created "initial attraction" so many times I can't even count. I also can't count how many times a girl has tried to start a conversation with me. I just usually don't do anything with it. I'm not the greatest conversationalist in the world. Terrible at "small talk" and "getting to know someone." I feel like I already know them before I even meet them. I've seen possibly 100 million people in my life. I don't think I'll meet anyone who is any more than human.

How to spend money? Hookers.
I want a quality relationship dude, how is f*cking hookers helping anything?

I am a very good conversationalist when I have a woman who is attracted to me but my problem is I never get any real opportunities like that. I'm very good on dates too - I just almost never get any
 
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I want a quality relationship dude, how is f*cking hookers helping anything?

I am a very good conversationalist when I have a woman who is attracted to me but my problem is I never get any real opportunities like that. I'm very good on dates too - I just almost never get any
I don't know anything about relationships. I tend to think they are imaginary entities that don't actually exist. Probably based on one person using the other under the guise of "being in love." I don't buy into that bull$hit.

This was actually something I was wondering today when I "formed a relationship" with a handyman to work on my house flips. I noticed it was a lot of the same things people talk about on here. There has to be trust built, build rapport, etc. We both know what each other wants. The terms are concrete and tangible. But trust has to be built and certain risks have to be taken on both ends. For example, most people doing work will want a certain percentage upfront. This is because he doesn't want to do the work, then not get paid. I, on the other hand, don't want to hand over money, then have him stop showing up, or show up late and work 4 hour days. The only way to gain trust and get things done is to try it out and gain familiarity, and see that both sides think they are getting treated fairly.

This got me to thinking... What would a "relationship contract" be like between me and a female? I have no idea. What would be the concrete and tangible things that are part of the deal?

What does she have to offer me?

I think in generations past, it was basically... Man supports wife, wife raises children and does domestic chores. But that is not how society works today.
 

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I don't know anything about relationships. I tend to think they are imaginary entities that don't actually exist. Probably based on one person using the other under the guise of "being in love." I don't buy into that bull$hit.

This was actually something I was wondering today when I "formed a relationship" with a handyman to work on my house flips. I noticed it was a lot of the same things people talk about on here. There has to be trust built, build rapport, etc. We both know what each other wants. The terms are concrete and tangible. But trust has to be built and certain risks have to be taken on both ends. For example, most people doing work will want a certain percentage upfront. This is because he doesn't want to do the work, then not get paid. I, on the other hand, don't want to hand over money, then have him stop showing up, or show up late and work 4 hour days. The only way to gain trust and get things done is to try it out and gain familiarity, and see that both sides think they are getting treated fairly.

This got me to thinking... What would a "relationship contract" be like between me and a female? I have no idea. What would be the concrete and tangible things that are part of the deal?

What does she have to offer me?

I think in generations past, it was basically... Man supports wife, wife raises children and does domestic chores. But that is not how society works today.
the goal is a partnership - you guys both make money, both support the household and each other

it's not that much different from how you get along with your best friends - except that you live with each other
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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the goal is a partnership - you guys both make money, both support the household and each other

it's not that much different from how you get along with your best friends - except that you live with each other
I don't need or want a girls money. I don't want shared bills and DEFINITELY wouldn't put her name on the deed to a house.

Why would I want to partner with a female? 99% of them are mentally retarded. They can usually only make money by being *****s to some degree. It would be foolish to rely on a female for anything, let alone my finances.

I would never consider a female an equal partner. That is sheer fantasy. They are biologically inferior because we are a sexually dimorphic species. I don't desire to be on a "team" with them, and they wouldn't make good "teammates" anyway, unless I wanted my team to suck.

I don't have best friends. I think the handyman I met today is my new best friend.
 

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I don't need or want a girls money. I don't want shared bills and DEFINITELY wouldn't put her name on the deed to a house.

Why would I want to partner with a female? 99% of them are mentally retarded. They can usually only make money by being *****s to some degree. It would be foolish to rely on a female for anything, let alone my finances.

I would never consider a female an equal partner. That is sheer fantasy. They are biologically inferior because we are a sexually dimorphic species. I don't desire to be on a "team" with them, and they wouldn't make good "teammates" anyway, unless I wanted my team to suck.

I don't have best friends. I think the handyman I met today is my new best friend.
you're extremely socially retarded. You need big time help

My best friend is dating a female dentist who makes about 300K a year, nice as can be, phenomenal personality, extremely intelligent, etc...
 
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you're extremely socially retarded. You need big time help

My best friend is dating a female dentist who makes about 300K a year, nice as can be, phenomenal personality, extremely intelligent, etc...
Yet I can talk business all day long and get things done efficiently?

I'm not sure that I want to "date" anyone. That just means you have sex with one person (hopefully).

The amount of money a girl makes makes no difference to me. Am I gonna ask her to buy me things?

Like I said, I don't even enjoy hanging out with them unless it's for sex. Just because you say she has a great personality doesn't mean I would see it that way. I might find her annoying as fvck, loud mouth, etc.
 

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you think you're going to pick up 8-10/10s in real life???


LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 8-10/10s in real life are looking for movie stars and male models. They understand that they are the absolute top of the social hierarchy - way above even a regular non famous male 8-10/10. Why would they settle for mediocrity?
You sound like you got the worst game ever.

8s though?

Are you a 4?

8s are what I call practice son. Step your game up!

Not first rodeo little guy.





You mad?

Some of these so called men need to get their testosterone checked.
 
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You sound like you got the worst game ever.

8s though?

Are you a 4?

8s are what I call practice son. Step your game up!

Not first rodeo little guy.





You mad?

Some of these so called men need to get their testosterone checked.
But was the girl hot is the question? Can't really tell from that blurred out picture.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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