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GtarPlayr73

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So, I'm living in my own bona-fide apartment now. It's in a large Victorian-revival house, divided up into several apartment. My landlord is a woman a few years older than me, attractive, blue eyes, brown hair. She is vice president of sales and marketing for a small start-up. She is also a fitness instructor on the side. The result of this is that she is very busy and usually doesn't get home till 8PM. She was a star athlete, a straight-A student, made it to pre-med, and was an outstanding sailor in the Navy (medical corpman with an endless list of commendations and citations). So she's a superwoman...and she's my landlord. From the moment we first met (when i checked out the place) we clicked and she showed a high IL in me. I just got that unmistakeable vibe. We would digress from talking about the apartment, etc. She told me the day i inspected the apartment that i was had just the kind of disposition that would fit in perfectly. The day i moved in, she asked me if i was dating the landlady's daughter after she saw her come over. (Seems like she just HAD to know). So she hinted at me visiting and mentioned how one of the other female tenants visits her regularly and has become friends with her. Indeed, the other tenants are very friendly and neighborly and the overall atmosphere is very friendly and informal. My landlord invited me up once to show me her place (she lives above me). So, i felt she was being very open.

Body-wise, she is overweight, mainly in the ass and thighs and she isn't afraid to admit it. But, it's by no means a turn-off. She is a fitness guru and prob was in AMAZING shape until recently, but she just hates cardio lately. I DO NOT go for overweight women, but this woman is still FIRM. And her face, chest, and calves are slim. Her personality is really attractive as well. She's smart, deep, soft-spoken, and strong on the inside. So, the idea of having sex with her is admittedly, very appealing.

So, the other day, she pulled in and got out and was wearing a hot pink top and a black skirt and i thought, i have to visit her. So i called her and asked her if she was up for a non-business visit. She sounded flattered and happily accepted, even warning me that her apartment wasn't very tidy at the moment. I said no prob, mine's the same. So she welcomes me in and offers me a beer, taking one herself. I sit on the love seat and she sits on the ottomon facing me. She again inquired about the landlady's daughter why she and i weren't in a relationship. i explained that things didn't work out, due to age, and personality conflicts. (She let on that one of the other (very cute) female tenants was wondering that as well. THAT one has live-in boyfriend who i have hit it off well with as he is professional pilot). We ended up talking for hours. We both have an online dating account, but when i asked her how it was going, she said she was all set with dating for now. She couldn't be bothered.

She complimented me on being "an unusually mature 34 year old man" and said i was "an old soul". She asked questions about me and my family and discussed hers as well. Then she went into her bedroom, kept the door open, and continued to talk to me as she got changed. When she came out, she was wearing pajama bottoms and a pink spaghetti strap top. She wasn't wearing a bra. She then lay down on the floor in front of me and continued to talk. First, she was on her back, then she was on her side. She rubbed her foot along the ottomon and mentioned sex as (not related in any way to me, but in passing). Obviously, i was thinking of only one thing and eventually sat down on the floor as well, about 3 feet from her. When i did this, she said "oh you didn't have to move, it's just comfortable for me down here". I said something about coming down to her level. Soon, she sat up and covered her chest with the shawl that she had bunched up as a pillow. Her body language was unmistakeably guarded. After ten minutes, i sat back up on the couch, saying that my legs had fallen asleep. She didn't seem to care. We talked for another 45 minutes and then she addressed some of the the things i had emailed her about my apartment that needed resolving. Following that, we went down the stairs and i walked with her as she continued to talk as she took out a bag of garbage and then she said she enjoyed talking to me and bid me good night.

OK. So, you know about my involvement with the landlady's daughter and how that turned out, but this woman is MY age and very responsible, mature, wise, intelligent, capable. We connect. I think it is safe to say that there is a sexual tension between her and i. What would YOU do if you were in my shoes? Would you keep things strictly business and safe or would you go for it? Considering my current AFC credentials, should i exercise restraint or see it as an opportunity with a great woman my own age?
 
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Hard and fast rule:
Don't schit where you eat, or in this case, sleep.

Of course there are plenty of guys who can pull it off without any negative consequences.
 

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this is getting ridiculous.

let me get this straight. I grade A HB9/10 hot as f*ck chic is giving you the 'i want to f*ck you' treatment and yet you are completely oblivious to how women work or what to do in this scenario?

if this smoking hot chic wants to bang you, then i would suspect many other smoking hot chics in the past would have also. so you should at least have some experience with this. by 34 you shoudl know the routine.

im not sure what to make of you anymore man :)

my advice, bang her brains out. who cares if she is your landlord. at this point you don't need to be worrying about making the right moves, you just need to make moves. toss caution to the wind and bang every chic who shows an interest in you. you might get randomly lucky and land a good quality woman.

im not being sarcastic, im being serious by the way :)
 

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GtarPlayr73 said:
When she came out, she was wearing pajama bottoms and a pink spaghetti strap top.
btw, this look, which many women adorn in the morning, is hot as f*ck. a chic in pajamas and spaghetti strap top INSTANTLY makes me think about f*cking them.
 

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GtarPlayr73 said:
When she came out, she was wearing pajama bottoms and a pink spaghetti strap top. She wasn't wearing a bra. She then lay down on the floor in front of me and continued to talk. First, she was on her back, then she was on her side. She rubbed her foot along the ottomon and mentioned sex as (not related in any way to me, but in passing). Obviously, i was thinking of only one thing and eventually sat down on the floor as well, about 3 feet from her. When i did this, she said "oh you didn't have to move, it's just comfortable for me down here".
Situations like this require less thinking and more acting. Take action. It seems she was giving you the green light. Let your natural male instincts take over, ie think with your other head.

You are definitely getting out there and getting past your previous oneitis, which is great. However, I think you analyze things way too much.

BTW, I think the spaghetti strap top and pajamas is sexy as h*ll too.
 

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thanks for the green light advice, joekerr! It confirms my instincts...

joekerr31 said:
btw, this look, which many women adorn in the morning, is hot as f*ck. a chic in pajamas and spaghetti strap top INSTANTLY makes me think about f*cking them.
OMG, my man, you are so right! I literally had to search for words mid-sentence when she laid down! Believe me, i took it as a blatant invitation and i wanted to move on her so bad. But why did she sit up and cover her chest when i moved from the couch to the floor? That cooled my jets and i thought i had made a mistake. She couldn't want sex on my first visit, could she?! :) Was her "oh you don't have to move" just an anti-slut defence couched in politeness?
 

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yep, i get it now. She would not have invited me up to her place, gotten changed into her pj's, lay down in front of me if she didn't want sex to take place. Look at a woman's actions, right? God, i'm feeling thick, right now! What a perfect scenario! The chemistry of the moment felt so right. Everything was working like it should. But, again, my fear of offending a woman by moving too quickly got the best of me. And she sat up and covered her chest because i didn't move on her immediately. Of course, she wasn't going to keep laying there while i was sitting...

I'm going to visit her tonight. The last thing she said the other night was "stop by any time...". So, i'll try her at 9:00, maybe text her beforehand to let her know i'll be visiting...
 

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you already have oneitis.
 

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GtarPlayr73 said:
thanks for the green light advice, joekerr! It confirms my instincts...
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

hahahaha, man I can't believe you have to get advise from an anonymous guy on the internet to confirm your instincts and get the "green light" :crackup: come on man, you sound so intelligent, but you do the stupidest things sometimes :crackup:
 

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GtarPlayr73 said:
yep, i get it now. She would not have invited me up to her place, gotten changed into her pj's, lay down in front of me if she didn't want sex to take place. Look at a woman's actions, right? God, i'm feeling thick, right now! What a perfect scenario! The chemistry of the moment felt so right. Everything was working like it should. But, again, my fear of offending a woman by moving too quickly got the best of me. And she sat up and covered her chest because i didn't move on her immediately. Of course, she wasn't going to keep laying there while i was sitting...

I'm going to visit her tonight. The last thing she said the other night was "stop by any time...". So, i'll try her at 9:00, maybe text her beforehand to let her know i'll be visiting...
LOL! definately a 'DOH!!' moment. I feel your pain man, been in similar situations a few times, and reacted like you because I didn't want to take a chance for fear of failure. Strike while the iron's hot next time. Good luck.
 

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hey, blueguy, you have to bear in mind that i only recently came out of decades of religious taboos and restraints on sex. I'm still learning the real deal on what women really want. It's been slow getting the women-aren't-aggressive-about-sex message out of my head, ok? Biology was saying one thing, while the feminized culture was saying another and i didn't know how quickly she wanted to move or if she wanted to get sexual with one of her tenants. It's clear to me now, but in the moment, i wasn't so sure...
 

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she did not want to have sex with you. dude, unless shes a sex addict she isn't going to bang some guy she just met.

but she WAS trying to get your attention.

you gotta remember, women's body dont function exactly like a mans. they don't get a hard on and the desire to blow a load. they LIKE the tease game. its no big deal for her to flirt her body in front of you - it doesn't produce in her the desire to bust a nut (cuz she has no nut). its pure ego satisfaction. she gets off on knowing that the man sitting across from her is secretly thinking about how much he wants to f*ck her right now.

she is not wearing the pjs and string top cuz she wants you to f*ck her. shes doing it to make you want to f*ck to please her ego.

the BEST thing to do in those scenarios is give her the once over, let her know you are checking her out, then shortly after that make an excuse to leave. it will up her IL in you.

cuz i can tell you this much, odds are she was not looking for a quickie from a practical stranger.
 

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GtarPlayr73 said:
hey, blueguy, you have to bear in mind that i only recently came out of decades of religious taboos and restraints on sex. I'm still learning the real deal on what women really want. It's been slow getting the women-aren't-aggressive-about-sex message out of my head, ok?
I hear you on that. I had a similar situation.

Sorry, it just stroke me as... you know those cinemax porn flicks?

You sound like one of those "robot aliens" that's getting seduced for his first time by a chick on "planet earth" and doesn't know what to do or how to experience "earthling" emotions :crackup: beam me up, scotty! :crackup:
 

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joekerr31 said:
the BEST thing to do in those scenarios is give her the once over, let her know you are checking her out, then shortly after that make an excuse to leave. it will up her IL in you.
I concur
 

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I disagree. I think she was totally up for it. She was waiting for you to make a move. there are lots of women out there ready to have semi anonymous sex. there are plenty of women who treat sex a lot like men do. these women are of course the ones that will have mind blowing sex with you. And in time, they will send these unsuspecting guys to sosuave with their tails between their legs.
 

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OK, so we have some mixed opinions. PE and others thinks she was up for it, and considering that this woman is a go-getter and a super-achiever, he might be right. She is strong-willed and goes after what she wants. But according to joekerr, my read of the situation was correct. Hmmm. Better to err on the side of caution during the first visit, esp with one's landlord? My main cause for restraint was precisely that - i was still a stranger and it was my very first visit with her. So she was sending out signals of eventual sexual availability? My attitude was it's my first visit. I'll play it cool, show her she's worth my time, build up some familiarity, and let her wait for my first move when it does come.

The crucial thing is knowing when to make that first move. If she was that blatant in showing her sexual interest, i can only wonder what she'll do to signal that she is ready, unless PE was right and her lying down WAS the signal...
 

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Could go either way, but I would guess that her body language suggested that she wasn't putting herself out there for sex.

Problem is you don't know, and the window usually closes after about the second time she "puts herself out there" for you, if that's what she was doing.
 

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This situation highlights what I have wondered about on and off for decades- what does HER behavior mean ?
It is well known that what women SAY is just static -worthless noise. The truth is in their behavior. However in this case(Landlady HB) it is still not clear whether she wanted a f**k on the night or ,as Jokerr said,she just wanted to know that GtrPlyr wanted to bang her .. Women's behavior is STILL obscure sometimes and what we THINK that they are saying thru their behavior is not necesseraily what they mean. Only when their words MATCH their actions can we be sure, and that is rare.

This woman is playing the "do you want me game." That is certain, Whether she wants sex or is just getting off on creating desire in Gtr Plyr is not clear.

This is what I would do to test her.
Invite her over to YOUR place for some dinner and a DVD. Make it some kind of Non sexy movie....What she wears will give you a clue. SHe will wear something hot IF she is thinking sex. She is now on YOUR turf (even though she technically owns the joint)..
If she wants sex she will make it clear - women are skilled at sending "fuk me " signals. She will turn the convo to sex or sit close or send "those" signals.
Trust your instincts man.
 

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Her lying down was a signal. It says" I am confident enough to expose my body in a sexual manner like this in front of you."
She lay down in front of you. That is a submissive gesture .
Lying down in front of you is an invitation to touch or ,at least, look and lust after her.

She either wants a good fuking OR she is a HUGE AW.

However you still URGENTLY need to spin some more plates . THis LandLady stuff should NOT be at the center of your emotions.. Get out with some other women and make up for lost time.
 
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