"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I think i'm socially inept

diceman

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Hello everyone.
I don't know whats with me. I can start convo's no problem, but after the fluff talk & basic questions, i just kinda run out of things to say.

Like, for example, i was talking to a girl a while ago and i was basically teaching her to play poker & being a fun guy.

Then, i saw her in a club weeks later & she waved at me, all smiles, and i was gonna go over to her, but i couldn't think of a single thing to say to her.

So, i just left it & had a good time with my friends, and i know i was stupid, but i was scared i'd run dry with the conversation.

I mean, when i see people i know in a club, it usually goes...

Me: "Hello"
Her: "Hi ya!"
Me: "how are you?"
Her: "Alright"
Me: "you havin' a good night?"
Her: "Yeah, it's pretty good"
Me: "......?"

What the hell can i do?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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soontobesuave

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ask open ended questions instead of interviewing her

what u been upto? any reply to that can lead to endless convos unless she says not much or nothing. then you can tell her she's boring get the neg in and off you go...
 

Shiftkey

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You're not socially inept, you just haven't developed your conversational skills to their potential. It's something that takes practise and some balls to master. Just keep trying and you'll get it.
 

JJMcLure

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Quit playing sh1t out in your head before you do it. It builds anxiety. Just ACT.

What you'll find is that people actually WANT to talk to you. Think of it like this, you just have to start the conversation (with ANY opener). And from there they can take it and run with it. Chicks LOVE talking (especially about themselves). You don't have to plan a conversation out.

One of my favorite things is just to use whatever wacky opener I can think of - all it is a way to get an interaction started (did you know Mystery sometimes gives the bird as an opener?). Because I KNOW that once I've opened, it is downhill from there. I think of it like this, the chick is waiting for an invitation to interact with me. My opener is that invitation.

Use the 3 second rule, this will help you. Practice it.
 

diceman

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It's not the approach thats a problem, but the actual conversation. I can say hello, but thinking of something to talk about is a real problem. I've approached before & i ALWAYS run out of things to say very quickly.

Is there any hope for me?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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The Juan and only

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Yes there is hope, you just need practice that's all.

and I agree with JJMcLure, don't rehearse conversations or try to plan everything in your head. Its generally not a good idea.

However, I do have some advice that might help: if you run out of things to say, simply shut up, smile and look at her as though you expect her to say something - that takes the pressure off you and puts it on her. 99% of the time she will think of something to talk about or she will excuse her self (and perhaps come back later).

Its true that there may be a period of silence, and you need to be confortable with that. She will only be anxious if you are...actually silence can be a good thing...if you do it right it can make you seem more confident and mysterious;)

you need to be nonchalant about these things - you don't have anything to prove to her. In fact she would be lucky to go out with you a don juan like you:cool:
 
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