"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I think I'm in love... Gotta screw my head back on (pic)

Hellboy

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I just wanted to post that this girl is totally rocking my world right now. Here's a picture.

Okay, back story:
A Question of Morality
Oneitis

We have only spent the last ten days together but she is the sexiest most interesting girl I have ever met. As far as I can tell she feels the same way about me. I am doing my best to keep my head screwed on and am not saying anything heavy, just focusing on connecting with her, stimulating her brain and turning her on. I'm taking her on a mystery adventure all next weekend (countryside, castles, sunsets, music).

I've been very attentive and affectionate, caring even. Some would say my methods are AFC, but I never let my attention wander higher than her interest level (which is very high) and I am still C&F. She knows about my reputation so she knows that I'm not desperate. I have been single for a while because I have been waiting for a chick like this to come along. Hell, I've been waiting 25 years for a chick like this to come along.

My only worry is that we seem so close, so connected, and it's only been 10 days since we started getting intimate. Extremely early days. I'm worried that there's a shock in store just round the corner, and I'm gonna be facing a major disappointment.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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flyinshark

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There's nothing wrong being in love. Yet, being in love after ONE WEEK seems way too early. Maybe you have a strong crush on her, which is not the same as LOVE.

There's also nothing wrong being "so close, so connected". That's how most relationships start. The 2 are so passionate about each other that they think they are made for each other for eternity. I say wait for a month or maybe a bit more for this cloud to dissipate a bit, and then you'll see with a clearer mind.

Lastly, why do u freak out? You're being Mr. Negative here! She WILL FEEL THIS, if you keep thinking that something will go wrong. Unless you have some real proof that something may go wrong, there's no reason to fear a major shock. You're probably scared of how well this thing has started. Don't be! It's normal, when you meet someone special! Enjoy yourself man, and the relationship will take off from your positive attitude!
 

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She might have one great personality, but that face isn't anything to go crazy over.
 

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She might have one great personality, but that face isn't anything to go crazy over.
to each is his or her own.

just take the risk...but you know that already!

good luck Hellboy!
 

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Normally she would get a 5-6 rating, but thanks to that nose piercing, she gets a 4-5.

Always think in the present, never about the past nor the future (unless you plan to get married or going on a big trip.) So I'm not sure about the love thang.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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TedJustAdmitIt

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Hellboy.....is she cool with you posting her pic online?

I think she looks hornier with the nose ring than she would without.I like goth chicks but only in small doses...always fantastic,animalistic sex but a little too serious about everything from my experience.She's cute tho:up:

Feels good when you really connect with someone,eh?
Swap "I think I'm in love" with "I think I'm infatuated" tho...10 days is nothing mate,you need to see all sides to her before coming to a decision like that IMO.
 

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Well I'm a bit of a goth myself. My ideal woman has always been very gothy, very long dark hair and dark eyes. I go apeshyt over tattoos and piercings too.

You're right, it is infatuation, not love. I'm realistic enough about that, as I have had a few LTRs in the past. But man, it FEELS like love. I feel as if I've known this chick forever. That pic was taken after we went out for the night together. We met at 11pm and went to a club together, got back to mine and spent all the way up until 11pm the next night without even going to sleep. We just talked and had sex for like 18 hours solid. When she left I sent her a message that just said "Wow! Sweet dreams x". She sent me a reply straight away that said "Thank you for the lovely weekend! And for waiting at the bus stop with me. Sweet dreams to you too. I'll be floating above the stars dreaming of my knight x". We have a couple of roleplay things going on (Gomez/Morticia, and Knight/Damsel).

Here's another pic taken a few seconds before the other one. No, she doesn't know I posted the pic. I'll take them down once this thread has died. Pretty harmless right? I just feel like I wanna tell the world about this girl right now.
 

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heres a tip, when you said she knows your rep and that means your not desperate. well that works until she actually gets to know you. you are only viewed as what she knows. if you start to seem clingy, it wont matter how many chicks youv banged, in her eyes you are desperate. follow, let your actions speak for you, no worries man
no worries
 

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yes...siph makes a very good point.

What's one of the golden rules when dealing with a woman?

Pay attention to her actions,not her words.

YMMV but IMO that goes for men as well.

It doesn't matter how many snatches you've snatched in the past,if you start acting clingy that's gonna set off alarm bells in her head.

Is the fact that you're considered something of a player part of the attraction for her?

P.S. 2nd pics great.....got any nudies?:D
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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First off, a big thanks to Flyinshark, Ted and Siph for your insightful feedback!

Is the fact that you're considered something of a player part of the attraction for her?
Interesting point. The first time I met her I did my usual thing, walked right up to her and started talking to her. Commenting on her dress (it was a tiny tight tigerprint thing) and asking her if she was wild and dangerous as the attire would suggest. It wasnt long before I had my hand on her waist and I didn't sense any resistance. However, I since found out that this behavior earned me the moniker "that sleasy guy". And things got worse. She later spent time in the company of people who are, shall we say, disgruntled by my attitudes towards women. So to cut a long story short, there was a strong base attraction and a lot of sexual tension but she had consciously decided not to sleep with me because I was a blatant player, and because she has a little bit more self respect than that.

In the end I pretty much invited myself to stay over at her house one night - but she wouldn't let me sex her. I think it was just a test. She wouldn't even let me kiss her until I showed genuine interest in this personalised horoscope thing that had been made for her. I guess the more genuine interest I showed in her as a person, the more she loosened up towards me, and the closer we got physically and emotionally. So in that sense, being a player worked against me and almost prevented anything from happening.

On the flip side, I think there has been a HUGE advantage to coming into the relationship from this angle. She has been in two relationships in the past and both guys were possessive, jealous control freaks. Funnily enough both my exes were the same (justified or not). So as a result we're both a little commitment phobic and have been honest with each other about this. I've never been a jealous type and I think she can tell. I'm not texting her and phoning her all the time like I guess most guys would, and I would never dream of telling her what she can and can't do, or who to talk to etc. If I can't trust her then what's the point?

When we started discussing our 'relationship' I told her I had been sleeping with a couple of other women, but that I wasn't sure if I would feel the need to any more. She said she wouldn't if I didn't and we left it at that. Next time we had sex she was telling me she only wants me and nobody else. I told her I felt the same. So, the fact that she views me as a player makes this a HUGE deal for her. And the fact that I was honest about the other women will hopefully earn me her trust and stop HER turning into a jealous freak.

And no, I don't have any nudies. Yet. :D
And I wouldn't post them if I did, I respect her too much.
 
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