Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Realnezz has it right. There's no one right answer to every single woman. If we polled the guys here on the most attractive women and why those women are attractive we would get a thousand different answers (of course all of us claiming to have the right answer).Tha Realnezz said:Not saying that attitude and mentality doesn't matter what i'm saying is that some guys assume looks have to do exclusivley with their face when usually for most women that's false...
I know women that say they are "scared' of huge,WWE-size guys that are nothing but muscle and think they are "crazy or gay".
But most women from my experience hit on a guys butt and arms more than she would his face.
I don't think men and women are that different I just think men are more forthcoming with their intentions and needs.
While women want to hide or blatantly lie about what they really want cuz they think it will scare men away(and it will).
Do you really want to think women aren't pleased with less than a seven inch ****?Or a guy that's at least six feet tall?or a guy that doesn't have a nice car?...Hell no,even though most men know this deep down women know this well make them seem like *****s..
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
mistermarc said:Looks, height and muscles are what make the first impression...but it only gets u so farQUOTE]
Well if you can't attract them in the first impression, how on earth is their gonna be a second impression? There has to be some initial motivating factor, which is usually looks. If its not looks, its gotta be desperation or something if the girl is fat or ugly, or on the rebound maybe.
Vypros said:I used to a know a woman who was married to a guy who used to lift weights.
This guy was frikin' HUGE too. Tall, relatively good looking, had the whole package as far as looks were concerned. And he was into weight lifting and looking good and all that jazz.
You know what? She was REPULSED by it. Not just turned off, but repulsed.
They were divorced/seperated like 2 years later.
Muscles, looks, height, weight, they don't matter! Get that **** out of your brain right now. In actuality they do matter a LITTLE bit, but it's only like 20 % of the whole package that women are into! But for the purposes of this forum and the people who post her, FORGET ABOUT THE WAY YOU LOOK! FOR GODS SAKES SPEND THE TIME ON WHO YOU ARE AND HOW YOU ACT!
It's not the only example.ValleyDJing said:No offense dude, but way to base an entire philosophy off of one example.
You're right. Darwinism is the underlying role of attraction.Tha Realnezz said:In any scenario the first guys that always stand out to women(women not girls) is the taller men and the musclebound men.
I don't think most adult women have time to be looking at men's faces and anylyzing who is more attractive.
At a certain age women start qualifying men and take into consideration a man's education,pay rate and other genetic factors to see if he would be a stable enough father..
I don't think a pretty face will do the trick alone just like most men will go after a nice ass and rack before going after a nice face.
(At least where I come from there might be a cultural issue there.)
FME...Lifetime experience post junior high women will gravitate more towards the jocks,taller men & gym rats more so then she would a pretty boy.
So that might be the answer to some of you "I'm a 9 yet I never get approached" guys.
I know butt ugly guys from my gym who get LOTS of attention..
The thing is, some women say they think big muscles are gross, etc. Now from what I got at this board, the philosophy, is don't listen to what women have to say about being a great guy. But the idiots on this board are all hypocrites and pick and choose whatever fulfills their dogma.Tha Realnezz said:Not saying that attitude and mentality doesn't matter what i'm saying is that some guys assume looks have to do exclusivley with their face when usually for most women that's false...
I know women that say they are "scared' of huge,WWE-size guys that are nothing but muscle and think they are "crazy or gay".
But most women from my experience hit on a guys butt and arms more than she would his face.
I don't think men and women are that different I just think men are more forthcoming with their intentions and needs.
While women want to hide or blatantly lie about what they really want cuz they think it will scare men away(and it will).
Do you really want to think women aren't pleased with less than a seven inch ****?Or a guy that's at least six feet tall?or a guy that doesn't have a nice car?...Hell no,even though most men know this deep down women know this well make them seem like *****s..
The thing is, is that your one example can't refute statistical probability. I did the statistical analysis from Statistics Canada. The average married man, that is the sole provider makes 60% more than the average male. Just ask if you need the actual details of this, because I'll gladly post it.From my experience, that's not true. Four years ago, I was making tons of money.
It's because the information presented here has been all sold before. All the crap is sold by some GURU, and that guru wouldn't make a penny if they said, most of my stuff will vary, on how good looking you are.And yeah, this board tends to have a hard time believing how far a good looking face will get you.
I didn't. I think these threads are a pivotal part of the board.didnt we agree on no more looks matter threads?
Men that are attractive fill in the biological role of status, security and providing. End of story. Justin Timberlake has a high status, and can provide, which will bring just about all security. Girls would get off on the fact they tell people they're dating Timberfag.How many females have a picture of Michael Clarke Duncan on the wall as opposed to Brad Pitt? None. Justin Timberlake vs. HHH? You don't have to be a genius to figure this one out; muscleheads are a turn off for the vast majority of women.
Thick
Hmm, isn't the philosophy on this board, not to listen to what women say. Don't women say they want their men to buy them flowers and take them out on expensive dinners and shower them with attention? You're a hypocrite.It's not the only example.
You all are here, and you act like you haven't read books about women. Please tell me that all your "seduction" knowledge isnt' based entirely on this website. Please tell me that you have sought out other books/sites and read and learned as much as you can.
Because if you have, you would know that what I'm saying is true.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
The hell you talking about? There ARE other seduction materials out there besides this website that are written by men. lolJohn_Galt said:Hmm, isn't the philosophy on this board, not to listen to what women say. Don't women say they want their men to buy them flowers and take them out on expensive dinners and shower them with attention? You're a hypocrite.
There are other sources that support that fact that women aren't as into physical looks though. Ever see an incredibly hot women with a guy who looks like a dog?John_Galt said:You said she was repulsed by his muscles.
Woman also say to win their heart, you have to wine and dine, flowers and presents, and not pressure them into sex.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Those are girls not women for the most part.thickandcreamy said:How many females have a picture of Michael Clarke Duncan on the wall as opposed to Brad Pitt? None. Justin Timberlake vs. HHH? You don't have to be a genius to figure this one out; muscleheads are a turn off for the vast majority of women.
Thick
blueguy said:If Tom Cruise's listed weight of 170 lbs along with his height of 5'6" is correct, he is technically considered obsese.
None of us look like Ronnie Coleman, nor do we want to. That is dumb. I would rather not show you my profile, but go browse myspace.com for a second and figure out which guys all the deadly hot girls have listed as their top friends.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.