"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I suddenly don't find women that interesting anymore...

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It used to be all about sex and "getting" girls.

Now I've been seeing this girl for like a week or two now, and every time we hang out we end up having sex. I don't have much sexual experience (One girl prior), but I always figured that sex would be alot more orgasmic and jaw-dropping than it really is.

So I've come to realize that there is way more to life than girls and sex. I find more pleasure in doing things I enjoy and making money than I do having sex. I barely want to masturbate anymore, partly because it drains my energy. I still like girls, I'm just kind of over them now. I don't think I'll put as much pressure on myself when it comes to doing ANYTHING with one, from meeting her to going in for the first kiss.

I'm moving out of town next week, and I'm sure that this is a blessing in disguise, somehow. Maybe I've taken the next step in my journey, and I'm walking in an unknown new world.
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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There is alot more to life than sex. Life is not all about getting girls to have sex with you although some people on here make it out to be. I have like 20 hobbies that i really enjoy doing almost as much as sex with a new girl.

Paitball, basketball, swimming, watching my football team and chearing them on to mention a few. I am very competitive so when i beat someone in something its almost like i orgasm lol....
 
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And so Vice has become what this forum is truly for. To become a man that understands he is attracted to women, but also realizes and is fully confident with himself and who he is, not the women he sleeps with.
 
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Prodigy746 said:
Life is not all about getting girls to have sex with you although some people on here make it out to be.
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That probably explains why this thread isn't getting too many replies LOL

Now to find out what I enjoy... which is going to be difficult because I'm moving, and I won't have much free time for at least six months.

Unfortunately one of my good friends hangs out with his girl like every day and can't seem to find the time to hang out one last time before I leave. It's a shame, but I can understand; it's his first girlfriend and he's 17.
 
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danro said:
And so Vice has become what this forum is truly for. To become a man that understands he is attracted to women, but also realizes and is fully confident with himself and who he is, not the women he sleeps with.
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That's actually the mindset that I have now. I think that it's set me free. I find myself being able to spot guys who are frustrated, not confident... not centered, if you know what I mean.

I've also found myself offering help more often than I go around asking questions.

I think that if I decided to go through David DeAngelo's "On Being a Man" program again, I think that I would understand it much better than my first run through about a month ago. In there they talk about what it is to be a man, having a symbol for yourself, standing up for things, being a leader, etc. All of that is way more fascinating than women.

I'm so glad that I learned this at 18. But that's what books and seminars are for, eh? :up:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Prodigy746 said:
There is alot more to life than sex. Life is not all about getting girls to have sex with you although some people on here make it out to be. I have like 20 hobbies that i really enjoy doing almost as much as sex with a new girl.

Paitball, basketball, swimming, watching my football team and chearing them on to mention a few. I am very competitive so when i beat someone in something its almost like i orgasm lol....
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I totally agree with you on the winning. Slipping behind the opposing team in paintball and tagging out four guys in under a minute is an awesome experience.
 
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Vice said:
It used to be all about sex and "getting" girls.

Now I've been seeing this girl for like a week or two now, and every time we hang out we end up having sex.

LOL. And every time I play the lottery I win. You are not going to get sympathy votes here.

I don't have much sexual experience (One girl prior), but I always figured that sex would be alot more orgasmic and jaw-dropping than it really is.

So I've come to realize that there is way more to life than girls and sex. I find more pleasure in doing things I enjoy and making money than I do having sex. I barely want to masturbate anymore, partly because it drains my energy. I still like girls, I'm just kind of over them now. I don't think I'll put as much pressure on myself when it comes to doing ANYTHING with one, from meeting her to going in for the first kiss.
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Fair enough, but the same thing can be said about anything in life. I thought making money was more orgasmic and jaw-dropping than it really is. Now it is boring being rich and I just buy expensive things because I'm bored and I know the formula.

It's good you know what to do now, but it can be said about anything
 
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