i suck at kino, sigh

[Mintyfresh]

So yeah, im really horrible at the more advanced kino (basicly beyond a handshake and some touching of a girls hands etc).

My verbal game is farly solid, I've been developing more of a ****y & funny personality just naturally since i became more confident, and im hardly afraid to tease girls anymore.

But, im so horrible at trying to slip in casual touching during the conversation. Other than the usual 'hey thats a really cool necklace' and touch it for a bit while letting my hand come into contact with her neck a bit. Problem is, I can't just keep touching the girl in the same spot after using the "hey that a nice ____" line, nor can I make it seem natural to apply kino while just talking.

Anybody have any newbie tips for when they first started using kino? I honestly want to make an effort to get better at this.

 

[Broham]

Kino is best used when you both are in a relaxed state, or better yet, when she is laughing. You should respond to her laugh with a smile, a laugh of your own and a touch on the shoulder/arm.

 

[Skydiver43127]

You cannot do kino while you're too consciously aware of touching her.

The problem is that the only way to become comfortable with touching women is to gain some practice in doing it. But women are not happy with guys touching them without feeling comfortable about it (yes, they sense immediately).

The solution? Well, realize this is not such a big deal, and do it. If you mess up and come accross as needy... well, you realize that you do that all the time in approaching, don't you? If you are afraid of what some girl will think about you, just leave the DJ stuff.

I had a very interesting experience some time ago that you may find useful:

I got a girl I had dated for some time to go to my place to watch a movie. I had begun dating this girl while learning from David D's matherials, so I had made some things right and some wrong. I didn't know if she was attracted to me. There were some problems with a power conduit, however, so we weren't able to watch a movie and started talking instead.

At some point we were at the place where I was touching her, massaging her lightly, ect. Then I reached up, trying to tilt her hear towards mine and kiss her. At this point she stopped me and LJBFed me. Instead of brooding about it, I grabbed the opportunity to gain as much knowledge as I could, so I directed the conversation towards the "signals" we had been giving each other. It turned out that I had been too hesitant in the begining and left her with the impression that I'm searching for LTR and she wasn't interested in that.

While talking about this, however, I DIDN'T stop touching her. I just continued what I was doing, while I was calmly telling her how I am not interested in LTR, I'm actually dating other women, I select my friends carefully, but I think she may qualify, ect. (all true) At some point I asked her outright "You don't mind me touching you, do you? It kind of sets the mood right." Her responce was "No, I like it. If I wanted you to stop, I would object".

That was a huge breakthrough for me - girls LIKE to be touched and doing it is not a big deal for them, if it isn't for you.

As for the girl, she is a friend now and I'm using her advice on style and mannerisms. (that's what actually "qualified" her). I also practice kino on her (if I was confortable doing it while being LJBFed I definitely will not hesitate in other cases).

Anyway, back on the topic - just practice. At some point you will achieve a comfort level sufficient to apply kino without thinking. Restrain yourself from being too eager, however - this really ruins your congruence.

 

[DJ_in_making]

Kinoing is awesome! It's like girls wanted to be touched all along but just needed an excuse to let you touch 'em.
-Okay, say you're going through a narrow passage/door, lightly put your hand on her back while you're passing through.
- It's best to kino when you're actually talking w/ her (kinda obvious I know).
- You can also make it seem as though you're subconciously kinoing her. Ex: You're trying to get into a club. You talking to the bouncer "She doesn't have her ID, she's 18 though" meanwhile you have your hand on her, kinda in a suspended state as if you were not aware of it.
- If you're at a party w/ loud music, lean in and whisper in her ear, all the while touching her arm and your lips may be brushing along her hair. (They won't push away, they're trying to hear you)

Whatever, they don't care too much. Touch her in playful way.

 

[catch]

hey man, i can relate to you,

kino is definatly the keys to sexual vibing with a girl, and when you got the secret then you got the gal...

to be honest with you, kino is genuinly a normal day to day thing that everone does, its not a trick or a speicial technique, its one of the natrual parts in the mating ritual, your task is to get used to it and use it for your advantage, heres how.

first off keep the kino real, dont look like a false creep just trying to touch her up, she wont enjoy you encroaching on her personal space... it isnt a real situation that you would touch, then dont touch...soooo,heres some real examples

senarios are;

*1)your having some fun just teasing someone in a friendly way,

playing, teasing, pushing, pulling, pinching...

ever had a girl say,"ime gona kick your ass" in that cheecky voice..??
thats her saying she wants a play! she may as well just said "ime about to start touching you in a playfull way,dont ***** foot out of this, or ime outer here... with me?

*2)just walking with a girl,

every time ime walking next to a girl, in the mall, the side walk, wether its your sister, girlfriend, or any girl, i become a gentleman
and link arms, major points to score here!!!!
especialy if your with a brand new chick!!! linking arms makes them feel comfy, safe, warm... just becuase you link arms with her, and its not forward either.
others like holding hands on a date, arm round the shoulder/hip, you know same kina thing that FITS THE SITUATION

THINK OF A TIME WHEN YOU WOULD KINO FOR REAL..?

*3)relaxing togather on the sofa, or in a bar, or just basically together.

*4)when having a conversation,
this is the easiest one becuase its sooo easy and sooo real,
when you laugh with someone you are actually sharing an emotion, this is when most people will touch each other, on the arm, the shoulder, knee, elbo, wrist these are the areas we all touch natrually. so the next time you make her laugh,lean forward,touch her arm and laugh with her.

when you got some thing important to tell her, grab her wrist to captivate her attention.

there we go, some examples
there are loads of situations, spot them in every day life and start your kino practice.

just remember; before you say, ahhh man, wheres all the sexual kino stuff...!!!
dont jump ahead of your self or you will never grasp the real concept,
get good at kino in normal day to day events, keep it real dont be false, when your confident with kino then you can begin with sexual kino.!