"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I see the spark of cunning

Deadly_Ripped

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I'm not the most experienced person on this forum, but I'm not new to the community, nor women in general. I've slept with between 20 and 30 women and have dated between 50 and 80 (haven't really kept track). I've been in multiple long term relationships, and have broken most up, but have also experienced getting dumped. I pride myself in being able to read women's faces to determine if they're selfish, insecure, malicious, or decent, but I saw something new recently.


Background:
Her: Asian (born & raised upper middle class USA), witty, equally intelligent compared to me, social, in better shape than me, active person, professionally successful.
Us: Co-workers who've been dating for a few months now. Started off casual and has progressed - without a formal conversation - to a regular thing with very clear emotional connection.

The Observation:
Every once in a while, I see this look in her face - mostly in her eyes - that merits only one adjective: calculating

People wear their emotions on their faces if you know how to look for them, and she's revealed herself to me as the type of woman classically described on this forum by some of the more misogynistic members; one who believes in her self-worth, calculates what she is getting out of a relationship, considers financial and professional status/prestige, and then acts the appropriate part to obtain what she wants. The look I see tells me that my educational, professional, and financial status mean more to her than my personality or dcik size. It tells me that she is considering what her parents would think more than my personality or our chemistry.

Any guys on this forum meet or date women like this? I suppose that anyone who has very high self esteem considers these things, but the look in her face is so telling and it's something I've NEVER seen so plainly worn before.

I suppose I should end this post with replies to the questions that I anticipate:

Do you buy her stuff? Yes, but she shows appreciation, and reciprocates, but not equally. I have definitely shelled out much more than her on dates and whatnot, but she appears willing to pay occasionally.

Is she emotionally supportive? Yes, she's a good listener and we have very balanced conversation.

Does she tell people about you? Yes, our co-workers know about us, and it was her idea to tell them.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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DarkShade

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The Asian upbringing and culture may also bring unintended and unexpected results. Is she an Asian Woman first and American Woman second, or the other way around?
 

Warrior74

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All women have this look. Dumb ones, poor ones, rich ones. Some hide it better than others.
 
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