I OVER-DO to much of this Don JUan S HIT! (for the over achievers)

[trojanman88]

I am an over achiever when it comes to the game. I just want to be good fast, therefore I always stick on something in the game and for years I don't notice that i'm not succeeding wit women because of it.****, I just noticed this about myself today, I IOD in a joking way/do takeaways (tease her like I dont like her or make fun of her) way to much, this **** ****s me up cuz like the girls will think i'm gay or they don't wanna be around me cuz I give to many negative comments (usually they don't think i'm gay). I realized (in the MeHOW way) that you have to constantly give the girls good feelings about themselves and only do a few takeways or the girl won't want to be around you. My post isn't about this little dilema its more to aware don juans that are not seeing success, that they might be overdoing some of these laws. Do you guys have any stories where you over did anything like kino, cf and ec?

 

[sav]

well obviously there has to be balance...

 

[ChrizZ]

Didn't you learn anything?

A Don Juan is a way of being and not a seduction technique.

BTW

Pickup is 100% internal.

There is no super routine that gets all women to sleep with you.

:kick:

 

[Lord Shinra]

Sometimes I overdo it, its all part of the game. You will slip once in a while. But as Michael Jordan missed some of his shots, so will we.

 

[Rhoto]

Didn't you learn anything?

A Don Juan is a way of being and not a seduction technique.

Amen to that.

Just like one pill won't make you lose weight, it takes a whole way of being.:rockon:

 

[Phyzzle]

****y/Funny overload.

 

[trojanman88]

dude i know what you mean

 

[trojanman88]

****y funny and teasing takes a special touch you cant sound too ****y for c and funny and you cant sound like your insulting if your teasing at all.

 

[Snow Plowman]

I know what you mean. When I first started out I was what you called a buying temperature ***** lol, it was like finding a glitch and just punching it and punching it. lol, it answered my question as to why these chicks were super attracted at the particular moment but next day wouldn't say sh!t.

My rule of thumb is "Use the least amount of game neccessary"

If the chick opens you don't even bother using any so called "Attract" stuff. If chick is ice cold start offering as much value needed to move the interaction forward.

I think that is a general process trap people fall in, because we find out about certain things and it works so good that we constantly do it. Some people never correct it others it take a long time, and sometimes its corrected the same day because a wingman pointed it out. (But for those who don't usually have wingman's...sucks for us)

I remember I was using nothing but buying temperature for 2-3 months straight and when someone told me to chill based on my field reports and how outlandish the conversation was. So when I did it I scared myself because I wasn't doing all this buying temperature stuff and I was getting sexual attraction...hardcore (Chick was kinoing me like crazy that I kind of got scared lmao)

Those were the good all days, but yea use the bare minimum needed always.

 

[Nexus Polaris]

I do the same thing. I tend to go overboard. My calibration still sucks.

I'm so concerned with not seeming too interested that often times I come off as completely uninterested or like a total jackass.

I'll neg way too many times. I'll act like the girl's annoying me. And after getting a girl's number or going out with her once, even if I really like her, I won't call her for a really long time. Sometimes not at all.

When I'm out with a girl, I won't iniate kino because I don't want her to think I'm too into her. Etc. It's stupid. I've lost a lot of good ones by just trying to overcompensate.

 

[NickSCFC2000]

This site is to show nice guys that there are guys out there who are the complete opposite to them getting great girls.

No one should read these Bibles as if they were gospal, just have a read, have a laugh at it and you might come out feeling a little different about things.

 

[Sandow]

I am an over achiever when it comes to the game. I just want to be good fast, therefore I always stick on something in the game and for years I don't notice that i'm not succeeding wit women because of it.****, I just noticed this about myself today, I IOD in a joking way/do takeaways (tease her like I dont like her or make fun of her) way to much, this **** ****s me up cuz like the girls will think i'm gay or they don't wanna be around me cuz I give to many negative comments (usually they don't think i'm gay). I realized (in the MeHOW way) that you have to constantly give the girls good feelings about themselves and only do a few takeways or the girl won't want to be around you. My post isn't about this little dilema its more to aware don juans that are not seeing success, that they might be overdoing some of these laws. Do you guys have any stories where you over did anything like kino, cf and ec?

Absolutely, because people want results fast, they over do this sh!t. In return, they are only shooting themselves in the foot.

Anyways, I've lost babes by overdoing this crap. The last girl I was with said I played too many games and left. Others just label me as a player cuz of the excessive c/f. Others have labeled me as a pessimist b/c of the alpha traits and negging. Other girls can just see right through it and say something like, "So do you tell every girl this?" Others have called me too conceited, arrogant, persisitant. Others just blatantly tell me I'm not their type.

Yeah this sh!t can do a lot of damage.

Anyways, I've grown up from those days, and my advice is not to try so hard!
Just be yourself, don't listen to all these B.S. rules on here. if your feeling a chick just be normal. No crazy gimicks, lines, magic tricks! lol.

 

[NickSCFC2000]

Couldn't agree more, when there's all types of guys, rich, poor, muscly, fat, skinny gettin great gals there's no point. Just get out there I say.

 

[Lord Shinra]

Thats why I tell my wings or fellow DJs that the rules on this are dynamic. Its just a base and you have to do the actual adjusting to make it work.

If I went to a bar or anywhere and approached a woman, reciting canned material, I wouldn't even need to wait for the shoot down, it just wouldnt work. Even if she was into me and wanted to have my babies that second, I dont change up my game I lose too. Canned sh1t is too mainstream now. Better to use it as a guide and see what fits you best.

 

[Rhoto]

Thats why I tell my wings or fellow DJs that the rules on this are dynamic. Its just a base and you have to do the actual adjusting to make it work.

If I went to a bar or anywhere and approached a woman, reciting canned material, I wouldn't even need to wait for the shoot down, it just wouldnt work. Even if she was into me and wanted to have my babies that second, I dont change up my game I lose too. Canned sh1t is too mainstream now. Better to use it as a guide and see what fits you best.

Exactly. It's like a comedian coming on stage and telling a bunch of rehearsed knock-knock, blond or whatever type jokes, with out real substance or actual wit.

 

[moto]

I know what you mean. When I first started out I was what you called a buying temperature ***** lol, it was like finding a glitch and just punching it and punching it. lol, it answered my question as to why these chicks were super attracted at the particular moment but next day wouldn't say sh!t.

My rule of thumb is "Use the least amount of game neccessary"

If the chick opens you don't even bother using any so called "Attract" stuff. If chick is ice cold start offering as much value needed to move the interaction forward.

I think that is a general process trap people fall in, because we find out about certain things and it works so good that we constantly do it. Some people never correct it others it take a long time, and sometimes its corrected the same day because a wingman pointed it out. (But for those who don't usually have wingman's...sucks for us)

I remember I was using nothing but buying temperature for 2-3 months straight and when someone told me to chill based on my field reports and how outlandish the conversation was. So when I did it I scared myself because I wasn't doing all this buying temperature stuff and I was getting sexual attraction...hardcore (Chick was kinoing me like crazy that I kind of got scared lmao)

Those were the good all days, but yea use the bare minimum needed always.

I agree this has happened to me before wher ue they are super attracted and talkative then stop talking...How can we improve on this? Maybe I can improve my conversation with the chicks?

 

[Randallpink83]

yeah when i first starting out i was pretty much just a straight up *******... I didnt give the girls any slack.. lol... we all learn.

 

[Mr Plow]

I find that Charisma is an AMAZING skill to have. I bet any of these "good" salesmen would have no problem scoring with girls if they so chose to, with that sense of smooth charm they have got going for them... Plus I find that they can keep up a slight sense of ****y + Funny, even when they are trying to close deals.

Oh well, just my humble opinion