ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
Senior Don Juan
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I already orderd the dating tip book before i saw the low ratings at amazn.com. Is it worth buying it for $11? Is it one of the best book on dating?
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I ordered Ron Louis & David Copeland
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
MacDiddy
Master Don Juan
lets just say, you've gain some more shopping wisdom.
everywomanshero
Master Don Juan
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Not sure.....
I am not familiar with this particular book. However, I can recommend the other books they have written. Unfortnately, most guys want to hear some "master zen" technique that is going to work 100% of the time. They want to read some advanced technique that they'd never pull off, because it must be practed many, many tmes.
L & C present stuff that any guy can start doing right now today. It's more of a boot camp, if you will. Recently, I was struggling to seduce women online. I started using their wording and ideas again. Instantely, my success rates were/are up again. One of the main reasons I think their ideas work is it doesn't potray women in a negative light. You start doing and stop reading all the time.
I've used these ideas to seduce an exotic dancer and a woman with a Masters degree who I'll be meeting again this weekend. If that's AFC, then please let me become the biggest AFC of them all. Sorry, but I don't have to pull off some miraculous bar-room pickup of a movie star to feel like a success. IF you feel this way, then maybe some of the other things out there would be a better bet.
I am not familiar with this particular book. However, I can recommend the other books they have written. Unfortnately, most guys want to hear some "master zen" technique that is going to work 100% of the time. They want to read some advanced technique that they'd never pull off, because it must be practed many, many tmes.
L & C present stuff that any guy can start doing right now today. It's more of a boot camp, if you will. Recently, I was struggling to seduce women online. I started using their wording and ideas again. Instantely, my success rates were/are up again. One of the main reasons I think their ideas work is it doesn't potray women in a negative light. You start doing and stop reading all the time.
I've used these ideas to seduce an exotic dancer and a woman with a Masters degree who I'll be meeting again this weekend. If that's AFC, then please let me become the biggest AFC of them all. Sorry, but I don't have to pull off some miraculous bar-room pickup of a movie star to feel like a success. IF you feel this way, then maybe some of the other things out there would be a better bet.
Life-Trainee
Master Don Juan
I'm assuming you're talking about "How to succeed with women". That book is a standard material, lots of common sense, if you're a complete beginner it's a good strart but it offers little if you're more advanced.
Ive had this book for five years. I am 22 years old. The best thing to get with women and dating would be doc loves the system. A lot of it is common sense. My whole problem was not holding back with conversation and giving myself away to quickly. The holding back made all the difference. Girls now say they cant figure me out, they have trouble reading me. And i just tweaked my game a little bit. The less you give about yourself the more badly they want to know.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Dust 2 Dust
Master Don Juan
The first 2 chapters of "How to Succeed with women" is good, but then the book goes downhill from there.
My advice would be go to a bookstore, skim the first two chapters and put it back on the shelf.
My advice would be go to a bookstore, skim the first two chapters and put it back on the shelf.
I agree. That's the book that got me started on a path to being more successful with women. One day I was frustrated, went to the book store and it was a miracle that I found that book. I think I got that book like in the summer of 2003.
Marlimus
Senior Don Juan
Louis and Copeland
Louis and Copeland are full of ****! They tell you that dating is ultimately a 'number's game' and all that nonsense. Get David Deangelo's Double Your Dating instead.
Louis and Copeland are full of ****! They tell you that dating is ultimately a 'number's game' and all that nonsense. Get David Deangelo's Double Your Dating instead.
everywomanshero
Master Don Juan
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Well, that's part of it
Obviously, dating requires a lot of skills in a lot of different areas. I'm refering to "How to Talk to Women". It is an excellent book. It does work well for online seduction and subsequently meeting women. It is also good for overcoming shyness/social phobia.
It is true that there is a lot of skills you should ultimately have that are not covered in this book. However, I think it's an excellent starting point and a good book for anyone doing online seductions which have worked very well for me.
David D has a lot of good ideas also. However, his system is also very far from complete. I have his DVDs. I've gotten laid many times just by using his ideas on how to arrange your dwelling for when you "bring her into your world". He also does a good job or potraying what goes on behind the scenes.
The main thing is that you have to actually use the material. Most failures are a result of not applying the material or deciding it won't work before it's even been field tested thoroughly.
The systems I am most skeptical of are speed dating/the system. I'll freely admit I'm guilty of not field testing them, so my comments should be ignored by anyone who wishes to do so. Obviously, both have many testimonials to their effectiveness.
Obviously, dating requires a lot of skills in a lot of different areas. I'm refering to "How to Talk to Women". It is an excellent book. It does work well for online seduction and subsequently meeting women. It is also good for overcoming shyness/social phobia.
It is true that there is a lot of skills you should ultimately have that are not covered in this book. However, I think it's an excellent starting point and a good book for anyone doing online seductions which have worked very well for me.
David D has a lot of good ideas also. However, his system is also very far from complete. I have his DVDs. I've gotten laid many times just by using his ideas on how to arrange your dwelling for when you "bring her into your world". He also does a good job or potraying what goes on behind the scenes.
The main thing is that you have to actually use the material. Most failures are a result of not applying the material or deciding it won't work before it's even been field tested thoroughly.
The systems I am most skeptical of are speed dating/the system. I'll freely admit I'm guilty of not field testing them, so my comments should be ignored by anyone who wishes to do so. Obviously, both have many testimonials to their effectiveness.