"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I had a second date with a chick tonight that I met a few weeks ago. I was suppose to take her to dinner and everything. I thought things were good and we talked for a while on the phone and everything this week. Just before our date tonight, she text me and asked me if it was okay for her friend to come along with her. She said that her friend recently broke up with her man and she was devastated. Immediately red flags went up. I like this chick but I know that if a girl doesn't want to be alone with you, she is either scared or not interested (friend zone). This is not my first rodeo and I don't want to sit there and be the third girl. So this was my reply; Hey, maybe we can meet up some other time then. You should support your friend and be there for her. Maybe we can meet up next week when you're not busy. She wrote back and apologized twice and said "maybe next week then?". I ignored this, usually, I will press for a time and keep her to it. But I was offended at the last minute circus show and I just said "Yeah maybe next week, I'll call you or u can call me or whatever and we can do it then. I have to get back to work so I'll talk to you soon. Have a great night.

I don't want to waste my time or money on games anymore. I thought I did good and I seriously don't know know if I will call her again. I am disappointed but I'm also glad I took a stand and tried to show her that I don't want to be with someone who can't go somewhere alone with me. Any thoughts? Is she even worth asking out again? Will I hear from her? Or should I just let it go?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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There's a slight chance she might be telling the truth, mate.
For now, give her the benefit of the doubt and do this...
Don't delete her phone, but don't call her within the next 5 days either. Don't text, don't email. Just go about your life.

My bet is that if she really wants to make it up to you and feels genuinely bad about doing that to you, she will call before the end of the 5 days. But, there is a slight chance that she'll feel too embarassed about standing you up and might not call.

At the end of the 5 days, just give her a simple call and catch up a little (For some reason this is starting to remind me a little of Igetit's link in his signature, so, some credit to him LOL) but don't plan anything.

Hell, you know what... I'm just going to link his post, because the advice is REALLY sound. Like I said, there's a chance she might be honest about what happened... although I think it is kinda screwed up that she would want to invite the friend along.

Big up's to Igetit!: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1596861

Now, next time just be really firm (if this ever happens again with anyone).
Still... the fact that she TEXTED it... DOES raise some red flags for me. I hate that, and I hate that women abuse that power so much.

My end advice is this: Don't just next her yet. Let's give her a slight benefit of the doubt, BUT just do stuff as you normally would and don't just jump at the first chance of planning something with her. Go out there and look for some more plates. Good luck.
 

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A.

Unintentional **** test, you certainly score value points.

Id say you did so well that she will be chasing after you for a date.
 

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Ease said:
A.

Unintentional **** test, you certainly score value points.

Id say you did so well that she will be chasing after you for a date.
I agree 100% with this. Looks like her interest wasn't high enough, but I bet she was impressed by your response and will take a second look. Wait a few days and see if she attemps any contact. The way you responded was perfect, and left the ball on her court. Let her chase. Good job.
 

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as kailex said wait for her to contact you...but you should put her on "probation"...any MORE bad behtviour and you should launch her!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Falcon25 said:
I had a second date with a chick tonight that I met a few weeks ago. I was suppose to take her to dinner and everything. I thought things were good and we talked for a while on the phone and everything this week. Just before our date tonight, she text me and asked me if it was okay for her friend to come along with her. She said that her friend recently broke up with her man and she was devastated. Immediately red flags went up. I like this chick but I know that if a girl doesn't want to be alone with you, she is either scared or not interested (friend zone). This is not my first rodeo and I don't want to sit there and be the third girl. So this was my reply; Hey, maybe we can meet up some other time then. You should support your friend and be there for her. Maybe we can meet up next week when you're not busy. She wrote back and apologized twice and said "maybe next week then?". I ignored this, usually, I will press for a time and keep her to it. But I was offended at the last minute circus show and I just said "Yeah maybe next week, I'll call you or u can call me or whatever and we can do it then. I have to get back to work so I'll talk to you soon. Have a great night.

I don't want to waste my time or money on games anymore. I thought I did good and I seriously don't know know if I will call her again. I am disappointed but I'm also glad I took a stand and tried to show her that I don't want to be with someone who can't go somewhere alone with me. Any thoughts? Is she even worth asking out again? Will I hear from her? Or should I just let it go?
She's not interested, if she was, she'd be asking you to continue with your plans even with her friend there...
 

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Hey guys,
I guess you guys were correct. I think I did good cause she called me twice last night (didn't answer) and twice this morning texted me and asked ME out tonight for a drink. I reluctantly agreed finally but I think she got the point. Next time she pulls that shivt, I'm out. Thanks for the responses from a few of you. We'll see how it goes tonight...
 

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Falcon25 said:
Hey guys,
I guess you guys were correct. I think I did good cause she called me twice last night (didn't answer) and twice this morning texted me and asked ME out tonight for a drink. I reluctantly agreed finally but I think she got the point. Next time she pulls that shivt, I'm out. Thanks for the responses from a few of you. We'll see how it goes tonight...

nice to know! have fun buddy
 

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Joe Stud said:
Falcon? Update?
Hey guys,

An update;

Went out for drinks with her last night. She looked really good and I can tell she spent a lot of time getting ready. So I complimented her and said she looked gorgeous and she started blushing. Everything was good and she was relaxed and everything. She talked mostly about herself (as they all do) and I sat and listened and smiled. Just thought about how I wanted to just make out with her. She is petitte and and has a pretty face. She is young (25) and it shows, but I think she is very interested. When we were done, I drove her back to her car and I said what the hell, went in for the kiss and she kissed back and it seemed like she was waiting for it. Told her it's something to remember me by till I see her later next week. She called me like 10 minutes after I left her to tell me she had a great time. This is why I think she is interested. She also called me again today. I am careful with too much talking cause it could kill attraction. Not gonna see her till later this week, don't want too much too soon. But it seems like she likes me so we'll see what happens. But girls are weird, they change their minds like the winds. I think taking a stand the night before really helped me though.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Falcon25 said:
Hey guys,

An update;

Went out for drinks with her last night. She looked really good and I can tell she spent a lot of time getting ready. So I complimented her and said she looked gorgeous and she started blushing. Everything was good and she was relaxed and everything. She talked mostly about herself (as they all do) and I sat and listened and smiled. Just thought about how I wanted to just make out with her. She is petitte and and has a pretty face. She is young (25) and it shows, but I think she is very interested. When we were done, I drove her back to her car and I said what the hell, went in for the kiss and she kissed back and it seemed like she was waiting for it. Told her it's something to remember me by till I see her later next week. She called me like 10 minutes after I left her to tell me she had a great time. This is why I think she is interested. She also called me again today. I am careful with too much talking cause it could kill attraction. Not gonna see her till later this week, don't want too much too soon. But it seems like she likes me so we'll see what happens. But girls are weird, they change their minds like t
he winds. I think taking a stand the night before really helped me though.
Good deal...... You have everything under control my man. =)
 
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