"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I need some quick advice please.

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zzirf25

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It has been a long time since I have posted anything on this site mainly because I had no helpful insight to offer anyone and also because the questions that I had were on this website someplace and I just did not ask. Just to tell you a quick little bit about myself, I am currently in the hardest period of upping my game which is trying to quit being an AFC. I have gotten a lot more comfortable with girls than I used to be and talk to girls way more than I used to.

So here is my question. There is a girl at school that I talk to just about everyday. If I were to "rate" her I would say that she is probably a HB7. I am not at all insecure about her interest towards me because she sends does send signals(smiles alot,is happy everytime she see's me). So attraction is not my problem. My problem is everytime I talk to her she is with a friend who is of equal attractiveness. Now I know that this is very AFCish of me but it intimidates the hell out of me because approaching one attractive woman is hard enough but two is extremely difficult. This is really the first time I have tried to pursue a female so I am this is an entirely new ball game for me. I was just wondering how some of you more experienced guys would handle my situation.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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just engage them both in chit chat,keep it light and playfull..you know,just BS with them.Make this a habit with ALL girls and you'll be set in that department for awhile. Nuff said.
 
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You said she sends you signals when she's by herself right? I get a little intimidated doing cold approaches on a group of girls but if I know a chick's interested in me then it's no sweat.

So she's chilling with a gf. Talk to her. This is good practice. If you can't confidently talk to a chick you already know because she's with a friend you will definitely not be able to approach a chick you don't know who's in a pack and let's face it, most of the time the real hotties aren't alone.

Remind yourself that she digs you. Is she the type of chick that would flirt with you when she's alone but then snub you in public? Prolly not. And never forget this: Rejection is better than regret.
 
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