I need some practical tips for a specific situation

[Shivastorm_88]

I don't often ask for help, usually I prefer trial and error and learn on my own, but this time I think I can make an exception. And I'm not looking for pick-up lines or tactics, mostly general advice

I'm taking a girl out snowshoeing, where at the top of one of the trails you get this kind of scenery (white instead of colored: http://blogs.bootsnall.com/BBQBOY/files/2008/06/mt1.jpg - I know, I know... Gorgeous!)

I plan on pulling a move at the top of the trail. Obviously during the hike I will kino a lot, for example play fight and wrestle in the snow, smudge snow on her, etc. Basically kino to get real close to her physically speaking to break some barriers for the day (the usual).

The problem is, I'm not aggressive enough. I know I can't force it, but I can try to create the occasions as much as possible. However, I never do that. Call it laziness, call it shyness to take charge, the drive is just not there. Usually I just let it be and if something comes out of it, good (rarely does). For once, however, I believe this girl is worth the effort, but now I realize my lack of experience is playing against me -_-.

Assuming I created enough comfort on the way up through kino, enough to be physically close while we take a breather and observe the scenery, what approach do you guys suggest I take? It might seem obvious to some, but not so much for me. Any starting point would greatly help.



And please don't waste my time, your time and possible debate about oneitis, I'm seeing other girls, trying to do the bootcamp as much as my lazy ass lets me do it, so it's not like all my eggs are in this one basket.

 

[Atom Smasher]

I get the feeling you could potentially shoot yourself in the foot by overthinking and trying too hard with techniques and such. Try to make a mental shift and concentrate on YOU having fun, and making this a practice run. In other words, take away its importance and just have fun.

You will find that you act much more naturally and will seem more confident and attractive to her. This is YOUR day, and she's along for the ride, a guest in YOUR world.

It's all fun and practice, so you can detach from the outcome. Once you do that, you will know what to do as far as kino, escalation, etc.

 

[Joe Stud]

3 (actually 5) second rule. you see the opportunity.... you have 3 seconds to force yourself to act.

 

[Joe Stud]

3 (actually 5) second rule. you see the opportunity.... you have 3 seconds to force yourself to act.

 

[ARrocket]

It's all fun and practice, so you can detach from the outcome. Once you do that, you will know what to do as far as kino, escalation, etc.

You have to reach a level where this sort of thinking is the norm for EVERY interaction with EVERY woman. It doesn't matter, it's all a game! haha

Now then, on to your situation: I personally don't like dates like these, because really...what are you trying to accomplish? You seem like you want to get physical with this girl, but you're not gonna do that out there in the snow. You gotta get her alone and indoors! Of course, you'll need some basic rapport with the girl to do that. So, background? How well do you know her? Etc.

You say you're not aggressive enough, and I feel like that's translating over to your date selection.

I don't know how old you are, but if my memory serves me correctly, you're pretty young...college, right? Then, I'd say lay off the idea of a "date" for awhile and stick to much more casual stuff. If you throw some alcohol in the mix, it becomes even easier.

Of course, it all goes back to one basic question: What do you want out of your interactions with this girl?

That said, go ahead and have fun on your outing. Definitely have fun, definitely kino, escalate, all that jazz. If an opportunity is there, JUST GO FOR IT. If not, don't fret; the real action will happen once she's over at your place

 

[dj_china]

if you've done the kino all the way as you said

just sit at the top and watch the scenery for a bit
then tell her to close your eyes and just go for it

 

[Shivastorm_88]

Yeah I think it all comes down to this... Don't overthink it, and act. I was hoping for a secret formula or something like that, but then again, no such thing exist. It wouldn't be as interesting otherwise.

Besides, you can't really force attraction, if she is attracted enough, I think it will be made obvious. If it's made obvious and I don't act on it, I guess I will only deserve horrible feeling that will come out of it for chickening out!

 

[Buddha_Mind]

I don't think there is any secret formula for most things -- just don't let fear hold you back and if you want to feel her, than try it.