"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I Need help guys!

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Hey everyone, a while ago i posted about this girl i liked...who only saw me as a friend. Now after taking many advices and using some of the techniques learned from this forum and almsot a year later this girl tells me she likes me. We kissed ( not made out), and spend some great time together. Than the other day she tells me she likes bieng with me and she can be herself around me...but dose not want a relationship at the moment, so i played it off as cool as i can so nothing would change between us. Now if it was anyother girl I would of probably tell her to go F*K herself, but i rly rly like this one and dont want it to get away. So this is where u guys come in, i never been in this sittuation before and I need advice on what to do. Please any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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ok, first get it out of your head that you "rly rly like this girl". Its okay to be interested in this girl, but dont commit your feelings too early, it will cloud your judgement and set you up for failure.

This girl said that she loves to hang out with you, but she doesnt want a relationship. That doesnt necessarily mean she wont screw your brains out, it may just mean that she doesnt want the title of girlfriend.

Keep seeing her, and keep up the intimacy if you can and progress it as well, do not treat her like your girlfriend though (i.e. Calling her everyday etc.) And if she is starts to get more intimate than you know she is actually interested and was not feeding you a line.

ohiofutballa
 

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okay thx ohio, if i understand correctly dont give this girl attention? like calling her or talking to her on msn, but when i do get with her keep flirting and try to progress things? okay got it, this puts my mind a little bit at ease
 

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Originally posted by FriendlyFriend
anyone else got a different approach or dose everyone agree?
i would do wut u did, but some other stuff. i would have said cool too, but then i would date other women. u know make her jealous and want ur time more. she asks you to hang out. say naw u cant u got a date, how bout thursday. u know i would make her jealous until she wants a relationship with me. but if tat doesnt work u got some girls on the side anyway.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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One question I ask now. Are you happy with spending great time together.

Because if you are, and she is happy with it, keep it up. Eventually it'll probably come to something you can jump on to advance it to that level.

Why did I post this, because I'm halfway in the same situation. I may not of kissed her directly, but nothing hurts like a kiss on the head when you give her a gift, or how you can flirt "indirectly", like pulling her away by her hand to see something that is really cool.

But nothing beats spending time together, that might just be all that is required.
 

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okay so basically what i got to do, is make her jelous...but still spend time with her....well thats how i got her to like me in the first place :p
 
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