I Need Advice For Approaching Groups Of Women

[rushing dude 123]

I have become very good on single targerts and i usually close on all the nice girls that i have approached who are by themselves, this is one of my strengths. My strengths will only get me so far though.

I have avoided this for way to long and i want to diverse into approaching groups of women by myself (no wingman). I am pretty ok with approaching two women, but when it comes to 3+ i usually wait for my targert to drift from the group and then approach her and close it. This however wastes my time, i realised this when a very hot girl came into an arcade with her family and she eyed my up a lot but she was with her mom. I waited, i waited, but she never left them and i lost out on that girl. So i got to get rid of this fear and weakness and turn it into a strength.

So i was wondering if the guys who have good experience in closing girls that are in groups could lend me a hand, supposably this is easier than hitting on a single girl seeing you have more girls to talk, so less likely to run out what to say. I however feel intimidated on being ****blocked or if one member of group has it in for me and will not allow the close to happen. especially seeing if i ask one of them out and one is feeling a bit jealous seeing she was not picked. Don't there friends feel jealous and would wanna harm ur game if one of there friends is getting picked over them? is there anyway to avoid this or am i over thinking.

I have average experience in 2 sets, but could be better. I have very little experience with 3+'s and if i did do one i had a wing man to back me up, i have not ever to my knowledge done one by myself (Well i can remember a few but very very long time ago). Also mixed groups with male and female advice would be helpful. This is a very big thing holding me back and if i solve this i will be able to take my game to a whole new level, So yeah advice will be very much appreciated


As always i will do the field work...

 

[macallik]

What up rushing dude. I don't really go after the sets, but in my experiences it is about disarming the obstacles. I think it was first brought to my attention thanks Mystery Method or one of those fundmental methods in the seduction scene.

It is an oldie but still a goodie. When you walk up to the group, you need to talk to someone other than the main target so that it decreases the chances of them trying to hate by winning them over first. It doesn't matter how many are in the group. Get them to like you and then go for who you like. It is a hell of a lot harder in mixed sets because guys know you aren't there to hit on them so you need to engage them more imo.

As for your situation where the chick was eye fvcking you with her family, I think that would have been easy for you if you went in. If you notice her checking you out and you end up in her vicinity without talking to her right away, that closeness compounded with her doubt of whether you are actually that close because you are interested makes for very very anxious chicks that telegraph interest like no other. You will see her put herself out there in front of mom and dad and all you have to do is act on it. You can still engage the Mom if you want to, ask them if they are having a good time or whatever but that chick will usually put herself out there.

Interested to see how it goes in your field testing, but in my experiences, as long as you sell yourself to the obstacle before you engage the target, it is usually smooth sailing

 

[rushing dude 123]

Thanks Macallik, i know mystery is quite known for his group sets, seeing i have seen some of my friends do it, i also still feel there are some areas i am not to quite familiar with and the only way i can learn them is by experience and watching it be done. On that note I will watch a few videos of mystery and keys to vip, so i can get a better idea of how they handle group sets and are able to keep all three interested.

Alright i went out last night, i havn't night gamed properlly for like half a year, so my game was not all that. I did my approaches and i have some ground work to work on, i just need to make a few adjustments and remember so of my old principles and i should be good.

During the night i did quite a few two sets alone without my wingman, they went reasonable, but i got my approaches more dual friendly for them, so one isn't stuck there not talking whilst i am chatting to her friend. Because i can finish it at the end.

I saw a 3 set and i pretty much havn't approached a 3 set ever by myself with the expectation of no wing man swooping in to give a hand. I went in girls were friendly enough and conversation was going kool, i was in there for like 8 minutes. However i was trying to keep all 3 interested and i think i tried to hard to do that. It was not going to happen, i could not talk to all 3 of them with the way they positioned there seat at the same time. I was chatting to one then chatting to the other (back and forth). This was just a waste of time i think, i should of come in talked to the group for 2 minutes and then cut to the one i liked and made it quick and sweet.

it is quite harsh though, you have to make a very significant impact or you won't get the number, seeing she is going to think her friends are watching so she only wants to give it to someone that has really intrigued them as well.

 

[Hemingway]

girls that are in groups

Girls are almost always in groups. Roissy had a good idea in this post:

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/02/friday-night-game/