"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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callowhill

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i have a little problem with this opener i use.today i have approached at least thirty chicks and only got one number and that was from a girl i knew from elementary school.i am happy that i approached 30 girls but i am not happy at only getting one number.maybe its my opener can some one tell me how i can improve it or how i f#cked myself by using it here it goes .excuse me miss can i talk to you?they usually respond with you are talking arent you and they keep walking.so give me criticism and advice if your that good.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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blinkwatt

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How about you tell us how you approached,you body languague,your appearance and words you said. Then we will help you to let you know where you went "wrong".
 

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callowhill said:
i have a little problem with this opener i use.today i have approached at least thirty chicks and only got one number and that was from a girl i knew from elementary school.i am happy that i approached 30 girls but i am not happy at only getting one number.maybe its my opener can some one tell me how i can improve it or how i f#cked myself by using it here it goes .excuse me miss can i talk to you?they usually respond with you are talking arent you and they keep walking.so give me criticism and advice if your that good.
i walked up confident and said my opener the girls were just rejecting me ilooked good and my clothes were clean and ironed
 

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this is what i do, i first smile and make eye contact, if they smile back then attemp to say hello, and be quick...............if 5 out of gurls smile at you then you can eliminate 5 gurls that are gunna shoot you down like that therefore increasing your chances and plus it shows confidence.............good luck
 

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"how i f#cked myself by using it here it goes .excuse me miss can i talk to you?"


Don't ask them if you can talk to them!!! That is weak. Don't worry so much about having an opener. Especially a canned one like this. Just treat each situation individually. Figure out something C&F to say or a neghit if your good. Get their attention before hand with a smile and some eye contact. I can't figure out a way to deliver your line that would probably work. Even a simple Hi is probably better then asking permission to talk to an HB. Remember Your the prize!!:cool:
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Good work on talking to 30 women.

I think you'd do better though starting by just approaching 30 women with no intension of trying to get a phone number; but, rather to just have a conversation.

Then you can work up to getting a phone number. You'll have to establish some rapport and that just takes time.
 

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I'd be willing to be that if you said the exact same thing to 30 different women (sounds like you did), then I'll bet it sounded rehearsed, and the gals picked up on it in a second. This is where you need to rely on your wits. Not only will it probably come out better (if you're careful), but it's easier to roll with whatever happens.
Props for the 30 approaches...
 

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I'd just judge the situation as I was aproaching the girl the basically come out with someting orriginal like hello..say something relevant to the situation...see how she responded and take it from there.
 

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Definitely congrats on approaching 30 women. The only way I feel to cold approach is to say something that ENGAGES them in conversation. I'm somewhat of a natural conversationalist, so I don't have as many problems as most. My problem is I've learned to be friendly to people, not the alpha male who just doesn't give a ****. I try to keep the conversation riddled with playfulness to keep this from happening. It's not easy. Sometimes it can come off like I'm trying too hard to keep it going. You kind of have to act like you just turned around and said whatever came to your mind to engage. It can't seem rehearsed or like you thought about it at all. Guess what? That means it can't be rehearsed or like you thought about it at all. 3 second rule comes to mind.

What it really comes down to, is, as it's been said: PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. You have to be a conversationalist to approach women and close, period. It's just that simple. Some people are naturals, some people learn. If you have to learn, you have to try and fail. Period. Talk to every person you meet, practice C+F on your momma, break into new social circles as often as you can. After a million "wow that was a stupid thing to say," you will, in time, feel comfortable in any situation and look like you are walking on water.

Women are only attracted to the real thing, and being that real thing is what we're all striving for. That means you genuinely, at your core, have to be a Don Juan. Canned lines don't work. Transforming yourself is what this site is about.
 
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