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i went on a date with one a girl i've been talking to lately. everything went well and i even got a kiss at the end of the date. now, a few days later, she wont return my calls. could she have lost interest that fast?
 

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smoothtalker72 said:
i went on a date with one a girl i've been talking to lately. everything went well and i even got a kiss at the end of the date. now, a few days later, she wont return my calls. could she have lost interest that fast?
she might just be busy. You should be too.
Dont' call her again.

Won't you see her at school or something?
 

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we go to different schools. i called her once yesterday and once today. after she didnt answer i just sent a little text message telling her to call me when she wasnt busy. i plan to call one more time this weekend
 

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we go to different schools. i called her once yesterday and once today. after she didnt answer i just sent a little text message telling her to call me when she wasnt busy. i plan to call one more time this weekend
Two calls were more than enough. You look desperate if you try to call/text her too much.

Don't call her anymore. Wait for her to initiate contact.
 

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i always liked the 3 strikes and you're out rule. that is 3 calls and no answer = move on.

im just confused here. date went well dropped her off and got a kiss told her id call and she says "yea call me" and now she doesnt return calls. just doesnt make sense
 

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maybe the date wasnt as good to her as it was to you. move on to new plates
 

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She's playing games. I suggest you don't talk to her until she initiates conversation again. Honestly though, you don't deserve this crap. Move on.
 

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smoothtalker72 said:
she kissed ME
Good, now just wait. Your too needy, go out and do some hobbies. This girl shouldn't be on your mind that much.

She'll initiate contact soon enough, if not...oh well, her loss. she didn't deserve you anyways.


Now get busy!
And good luck bro! :up:
 

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smoothtalker72 said:
she kissed ME
wow you got a kiss? yay!!!! do you want a cookie?

this girl hasnt called/texted you bakcin days. can u take a hint?
 

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stop trying to come off as a hardass for a sec and take notice why i mentioned that. you said maybe the date didnt go as well as i thought it did, i said she kissed me as a way of saying that doesnt seem to be the case. no i do not know whats going on but i really only posted this as a way to sort out my thoughts. i drive myself crazy by keeping them bottled up and i use this as an outlet. yes i take your suggestions into consideration no you dont need to be a jackass in the process.
 

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haha you know what you need to do
TAKE THINGS AS THEY COME
don't rely on things in the past completely
everything is always changing whether it's a physical, spiritual, or mental change
i understand how you feel sort of...a girl kissing you would definitly make you think she's interested...BUT some girls kiss randomly..this one girl at my school greets her closer guy friends with a kiss on the cheek...some girls don't take kisses as much..
if she don't call, move on
 

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i actually saw her at her job a couple of days ago. no i didnt go to see her, i was really there to get something and didnt even know she would be there. i didnt say anything to her and i know for a fact that she didnt see me, should i have just said something to her? my only reasoning for not saying anything was to me it looked a bit stalkerish for me to show up at her job after she didnt answer a phone call. maybe its just me
 

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should i have just said something to her?
NO!

stop thinking about this girl. if she likes you she will call u...
 

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you're right, thing is i just want to know wtf is going on. like id feel a thousand times better if she just told me straight up she didnt want to go any further with me rather than leaving me clueless. i've just got those what ifs rolling around in my head like "what if she doesnt have her phone" ya know? i hate not knowing what the problem is
 

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smoothtalker72 said:
you're right, thing is i just want to know wtf is going on. like id feel a thousand times better if she just told me straight up she didnt want to go any further with me rather than leaving me clueless. i've just got those what ifs rolling around in my head like "what if she doesnt have her phone" ya know? i hate not knowing what the problem is
she is telling you she doesn't want to go further by not returning your calls.

maybe you were a bad kisser...maybe she just wanted some attention for the night...maybe she has a boyfriend? who cares?!!!

this is why a DJ spins multiple plates. when one girl flakes out you just move on to the next. remember you are the prize and she is missing out by not being with u.
 

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everything just seemed wrong to me. none of it made any sense. i needed to calm my own mind so i went against your advice and went to see her today. now before you get on my case about anything, i've been replaying the night over and over in my head (im a perfectionist, and i new at this, sue me) as well as the events leading up to it.
1. we share a mutual friend so for her to just cut contact without reason or without telling the other is beyond out of place.
2. when calling her it wasnt like she was screening the calls. the ring would take its normal course as though no one were around the phone as opposed to someone seeing a number on the phone and just hitting end.

anyway, her phone was stolen. im glad i went against your advice but dont get me wrong i am very appreciative of it. however i feel like i would have been letting a great opportunity slip away by not saying anything. i've always liked to confront my problems head on. so walking away without an answer drives me crazy.
 

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I'm glad things worked out. But this whole experience has gotten you no closer to becoming an alpha male, which is essentially a dj.
Try to think and analyze less. I'm a perfectionist too. I check things off so many times and re-read things to make sure i have everything right. But when it comes to ladies, you simply can't be a perfectionist. There's no room or reason to be. You can't understand women and how they act and what they intend.

Of course. If she had no way of contacting you as a result of losing her phone, this created a new situation. Next time, don't go to her job and create your own serendipity. However, if you ran into her accidentally...i wouldn't approach first (forgetting hindsight), i would let her approach me since she didnt return the calls. But have fun with your current relationship
 
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