"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I met a spanish cutie at bar

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She is not quite the totally polished product I like but she important core ingredients are there

- 25 years old
- no kids but wants to have kids
- Cute face (not smoking hot but really cute to me although I'm prolly biased because I love Spanish features)
- Great skin - her mom is 49 and looks like she's 35 (she showed me a family picture)
- Decent body (wants to workout with me - Spanish women always have great body genetics, she'll have a pornstar body in a year)
- fantastic person (she works as a waitress at a bar I go to and everyone says she's a super nice person)
- intelligent, can hold a good conversation on everything
- huge on family values

I approached her at about 10 o'clock and we hung out for a good hour and a half...great chemistry. We felt very comfortable around each other. I was incredibly smooth around her...actually shocked myself how smooth I was

big thing was I put away my fear of rejection and my desperation. I wasn't trying to force it to happen, I just let it happen naturally and she was very heavily into me

I think she was surprised I asked her out, she gave me her number ASAP
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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When she's into you, it's going to be easy like that. That was fun, right?
 

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Sounds like she's the one. After all this time. Ask her to marry you within six months and then start getting her pregnant.

Don't let this one get away.

Live the dream.

Oh if she's Spanish, does she have a permanent visa or is she just on holidays? could be a sticking point
 

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Sounds like she's the one. After all this time. Ask her to marry you within six months and then start getting her pregnant.

Don't let this one get away.

Live the dream.

Oh if she's Spanish, does she have a permanent visa or is she just on holidays? could be a sticking point
no she was born here so she is a US citizen

her family is happy in Mexico. Don't worry, I screen all these things. I'm not going to be taken advantage off

What's cool to me is that she is very "trainable" - I think she will take my advice on how to improve herself in every category
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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no she was born here so she is a US citizen

her family is happy in Mexico. Don't worry, I screen all these things. I'm not going to be taken advantage off

What's cool to me is that she is very "trainable" - I think she will take my advice on how to improve herself in every category
Ok she's Mexican then not Spanish. Only people from Spain are Spanish.

Yeah being latin she may be more family orientated/compliant. If she hasn't being corrupted by american friends (both personal friends and repeats of the propaganda series)
 

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Ok she's Mexican then not Spanish. Only people from Spain are Spanish.

Yeah being latin she may be more family orientated/compliant. If she hasn't being corrupted by american friends (both personal friends and repeats of the propaganda series)

I call her Spanish because she's light skinned and looks very Spanish to me, she looks maybe 20% Mexican
 

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Congratulations, and it didn't even really take that long for you to get some results, so kudos.
 

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Congratulations, and it didn't even really take that long for you to get some results, so kudos.
my natural social instincts are very strong, I'm obviously a good looking man and I'm a very good person at heart. When I'm being my comfortable self, I'm about as strong socially as anybody you'll find.

I've destroyed myself with a terrible attitude and defeatist thinking all these years. I should be a natural DJ
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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She is not quite the totally polished product I like but she important core ingredients are there

- 25 years old
- no kids but wants to have kids
- Cute face (not smoking hot but really cute to me although I'm prolly biased because I love Spanish features)
- Great skin - her mom is 49 and looks like she's 35 (she showed me a family picture)
- Decent body (wants to workout with me - Spanish women always have great body genetics, she'll have a pornstar body in a year)
- fantastic person (she works as a waitress at a bar I go to and everyone says she's a super nice person)
- intelligent, can hold a good conversation on everything
- huge on family values

I approached her at about 10 o'clock and we hung out for a good hour and a half...great chemistry. We felt very comfortable around each other. I was incredibly smooth around her...actually shocked myself how smooth I was

big thing was I put away my fear of rejection and my desperation. I wasn't trying to force it to happen, I just let it happen naturally and she was very heavily into me

I think she was surprised I asked her out, she gave me her number ASAP


FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




After an ETERNITY of "waaai waaaaaai......I'm in the top 0.0001%"

waaaaai,waaaaaai....."People like me"
waaaaai,waaaaai...."I have to be absolutely perfect in EVERY WAY...."
waaaai,waaaaai...."Women have the super high standards and unrealistic expectations"

and blah,blah,blah,blah,blah.....you FINALLY took AN ACTION.....finally. I'm happy for you dude,I really am.

Not only do you feel good that you did an approach and got the number,but the rest of us here reading your threads feel good too. Cause your past "woe is me" threads felt like a never ending NIGHTMARE. Finally......a ray of sunshine broke through the dark,gray,gloomy,stormy clouds. FINALLY.

I felt like Martin Luther King reading this thread,

FREE AT LAST,FREE AT LAST....THANK God almighty......WE'RE FREE AT LAST.


Congratulations dude,really. I only have one piece of advice for you......

Don't act needy. PLEASE don't act needy with this chick. I say that because you seem to be VERY picky,so if you stepped to this girl,she must have really stood out.....and you may start to unintentionally place her on a pedistal because of her uniqueness.


But again,congrats dude. Even if you go back to your "woe....woe es me" threads after this,at least for once we can say you took CHARGE,took CONTROL....and were A MAN in your dating life.


Oh.....and one more thing....

That thing you said about how she seems "trainable" and how she might take your advice on how to improve herself in "every way"......You might wanna HOLD OFF on that for a while.


Even if your suggestions are good,all she's gonna feel is like you don't accept her as she currently is...and you don't want her feeling that way from the getgo.....especially when there's no deep emotional bond between you two yet. You want to be her potential lover.....NOT her therapist.

Just DATE the girl...don't try to change her. If things go well and progress into a relationship,THEN you can possibly,SLOWLY start to give her suggestions on things she can improve on. Talking about how to "improve" her before you two have even had a first date....probably shouldn't go there just yet.
 

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FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




After an ETERNITY of "waaai waaaaaai......I'm in the top 0.0001%"

waaaaai,waaaaaai....."People like me"
waaaaai,waaaaai...."I have to be absolutely perfect in EVERY WAY...."
waaaai,waaaaai...."Women have the super high standards and unrealistic expectations"

and blah,blah,blah,blah,blah.....you FINALLY took AN ACTION.....finally. I'm happy for you dude,I really am.

Not only do you feel good that you did an approach and got the number,but the rest of us here reading your threads feel good too. Cause your past "woe is me" threads felt like a never ending NIGHTMARE. Finally......a ray of sunshine broke through the dark,gray,gloomy,stormy clouds. FINALLY.

I felt like Martin Luther King reading this thread,

FREE AT LAST,FREE AT LAST....THANK God almighty......WE'RE FREE AT LAST.


Congratulations dude,really. I only have one piece of advice for you......

Don't act needy. PLEASE don't act needy with this chick. I say that because you seem to be VERY picky,so if you stepped to this girl,she must have really stood out.....and you may start to unintentionally place her on a pedistal because of her uniqueness.


But again,congrats dude. Even if you go back to your "woe....woe es me" threads after this,at least for once we can say you took CHARGE,took CONTROL....and were A MAN in your dating life.


Oh.....and one more thing....

That thing you said about how she seems "trainable" and how she might take your advice on how to improve herself in "every way"......You might wanna HOLD OFF on that for a while.


Even if your suggestions are good,all she's gonna feel is like you don't accept her as she currently is...and you don't want her feeling that way from the getgo.....especially when there's no deep emotional bond between you two yet. You want to be her potential lover.....NOT her therapist.

Just DATE the girl...don't try to change her. If things go well and progress into a relationship,THEN you can possibly,SLOWLY start to give her suggestions on things she can improve on. Talking about how to "improve" her before you two have even had a first date....probably shouldn't go there just yet.

Don't get so excited, nothing has happened yet. She could easily blow me off and start ignoring my texts

but I think my approach with her was about as good as you could hope for. I was super laid back, no desperation, no outcome dependence, I was very smooth with her. Spent a good 1 hour+ and she felt very comfortable around me. We felt like we had known each other for a long time. If this doesn't lead to anything, I will have to fight the urge hard to not get extremely discouraged. That was just about my best effort

and it's not that she is anything truly spectacular. I'm just very specific on what I want and she happens to fit most of my requirements. It's a question of specific standards vs high standards. I'm sure lots of people prefer white girls over Spanish girls but I don't
 

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Don't get so excited, nothing has happened yet. She could easily blow me off and start ignoring my texts
At least you're being realistic about it.
& remember, it can all be fantastic for one day and it can all go to sh!t the next so just don't think about it too much and don't be surprised if it does.
But seems like she likes you a lot, don't act needy and don't text her a lot just set up the date and do you're thing!

I've always had a feeling that Dave would be a SS success story.
 

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At least you're being realistic about it.
women are fickle as hell dude

I don't plan on getting attached even if I marry a woman. I know it could all end any second and she could change her mind instantly

All you can do is control what you can control
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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