"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I love clingy women!

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Most guys b*tch about them, but I.. I love 'em. I'm "seeing" a chick right now which consists of her texting me 40 times a day begging to see me. I go over, we have sex, hang out for awhile and then I tell her I got to go. She texts me 27 times on my way home asking when we can get together again.

She wakes me up with texts, emails me, sends me youtube vid links, thinks of songs that describe our relationship, and we've known each other for a little less than 2 weeks. I'm constantly telling her we have to 'pace ourselves' and she sends me sad faces when I do.

But for some reason I love it. I don't know why. She's got an 8 body and a 4 face but makes up for it by being totally into me. I think I'm different from most guys who want a "chase" (as all women's mags suggest). I love it when women want want want me.

Of course the downside to these women is that eventually they do a surprise 180 and fall madly in love with another dude and leave you like a junky gone cold-turkey, never to return. But that's something you have to expect.

Discuss.
 

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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Well its flattering, so it makes sense that you like it.

Zarky said:
Of course the downside to these women is that eventually they do a surprise 180 and fall madly in love with another dude and leave you like a junky gone cold-turkey, never to return. But that's something you have to expect.

LoL, exactly.
 

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Some guys can't stand these types of women, and most female magazines tell women not to be this type of women. But I think it plays to a man's narcissistic vanity, and frankly makes me feel like I'm in 100% control, which is a turn-on for me.

Wonder how common this is.
 

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My last gf was like that. Was great at first, but it started eating into my free time and I stopped doing stuff with friends. The reason we broke up was because she couldn't get enough of me. Literally, me not being with her more than 4 days a week wasn't enough and she felt like she wasn't a priority and it hurt her feelings I didn't feel the same way about her.
 

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I can't stand that type of woman because I have a freaking life lol. I have **** to do other than read texts and answer emails and go out to eat every night.
My woman, for me to have a serious LTR or now a wife, has to have a lifeo f her own. has to. for my own sanity lol. nothing is worse than waking up everyday "what are we goign to do today, can we go out, can we do this, what are you doing" or getting text while i'm trying to work "thinkin of u, what are you doing" and **** like that. man i don't have time for that.

plus i've been alone / loner the vast majority of my life being an only child for all intents and purposes utnil i was 17 then living alone. I can't have someone under me all day long expect my son and even he is more like me, just give him some toys or somme pots and **** and get out of his way.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I like sane women. Either extreme is bad. I like when a woman shows healthy interest, returns calls, doesn't play games, but has a life and isn't a nut job.

I know a guy that looks like Ben Affleck/Ryan Reynolds and attracts a bunch of mentally unhealthy, obsessed women. One even faked cancer when he threatened to break up with her and she was a model. No joke. Put marks all over her body and told him she didn't have a long time to live. No thanks lol. Although I hear these type of women are crazy good in bed lol.
 

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I´ve got a bad feeling about this...

Anyway keep writing about her, time will tell.
 

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Dear Zarky,
Sounds good to me as Plate material....So strictly manage your time and ration her....Familiarity breeds contempt...keep spinning plates and you will be prepared for the 180 turn around you predict....there is another possibility....This is the type of female personality that can morph into a Stalker so take care.
 

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Zarky,

I'm sure I'm in a minority here, but I say embrace this high interest level she has and enjoy it.

Life is short, embrace the passion...and yes, these types likely end, but...that doesn't mean you can't enjoy the 'now'. :)

Don't get attached though, just enjoy the moment.

Cheers to life!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Why is Mr. Positive minority with this view?

All the best Zarky, sounds like this is something everyone would enjoy.

I totally relate to it, ! Good job
 

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I'm with Mr.Positive and Scaramouche on this one. Enjoy it for what it is and nothing more. Let the relationship run it's course until it's expiration date.
 

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I've found that the more attracted a man actually IS to the woman, the less he's offended by her perceived clinginess.

Conversely, the less attracted some men are to particular women, the more quickly and easily he INTERPRETS her acts of interests as being "too clingy".
 

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i wouldn't mind having one as a plate but definitely not for an ltr.
 

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High interest is good, it's great validation. Just don't let her take up all your time.

I agree with Zarky I don't care for "the chase" that the women's mags claim we like. I can't be bothered chasing women. I always feel like they should chase me lol.

Seriously though, I don't like games. None of that "hard to get" stuff. The best thing a woman can do to get my attention is be high interest.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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But what he's describing isn't high interest, it's a mentally unstable/obsessed girl right from the beginning. Yeah, I hear these women are great in the sack, but what about when she turns into a stalker?
 

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zekko said:
it's great validation.
This is the bitter of the bitter sweet trap. My goal since joining this site and opening my eyes, is to not need validation from a woman.
I understand completely it's allure, been there done that.
However, it's ... addictive, and when it ends (should it be her choice), you may feel a tad empty (that's the trap).
OP, Scaramouche and a some of the others are correct, keep her spinning with others. Don't get oneitis on this woman.

SH
 

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Victory Unlimited said:
I've found that the more attracted a man actually IS to the woman, the less he's offended by her perceived clinginess.

Conversely, the less attracted some men are to particular women, the more quickly and easily he INTERPRETS her acts of interests as being "too clingy".
The same can be said for women too. This is where RT's rule comes into play, the person least invested in the relationship holds all the cards.
 

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I agree that validation should come mostly from yourself. That's definitely an attitude you should try to have. The pickup gurus tell you this all the time.

However, I'm not sure it's an idea that's wholly realistic. Who usually has the most self-validation on a pickup forum? The guys who get the most @ss. Conversely, the guys who haven't been able to find success with women are struggling with self validation.

It's hard to have confidence with women if you haven't experienced some success. So in that respect, I'm not sure you can really generate all your own feelings of validation with women completely internally, without some positive experiences to go along with them.
 

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I always like my women to be a little on the needy side. It helps gauge their interest level and you can treat them accordingly. If they show nothing for neediness, then I start scratching my head wondering how damn interested they are and keep sarging other women.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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