hehe youre rightPlayHer Man said:If you're lost in the city and ask someone: "Where is 17th street?".. they tell you.. then you say: "Hmm... I don't think so". Does that make sense? :crackup:
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Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
hehe youre rightPlayHer Man said:If you're lost in the city and ask someone: "Where is 17th street?".. they tell you.. then you say: "Hmm... I don't think so". Does that make sense? :crackup:
Good luck![]()
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
you said what iw as trying to say much betterorigin138 said:I'm with Samspade on this one. I ignored the thread for days but for some reason caved last minute and wasted 10 minutes of my life answering her (its?) questions. I guess there is still some white knight left that needs to be removed.
At the same time, Mike and BB have good points in that we were just being helpful. I would have treated any man the same way as I treated this female. She received no special treatment from me in this case because she was a female. Her questions seemed legit/sincere enough to be taken somewhat seriously. But I'd definitely like my 10 minutes back seeing how things ended.
oh i never said they listened. but look at it like tihs. how many times do you give advice to peole and they actually do listen? just about every guy i know asks me man how do i get cut up like you are. i tell them they don't do it and still *****. how many times do people ask me man how do i become successful and i tell them and they don't put in the work and *****. how many AA meetings i've been to how many guys i've sponsored adn told this is what you have to do to stay clean and sober, they dont' do it, then *****.Warrior74 said:The part in bold. I understand, when I was in a relationship I didn't mind being "helpful" to female friends. But to be honest, I've only had 2 women who actually have listened to my advice, they are like little sisters, I've known them for years and I don't mind. But some chic I don't know...screw em. Not my job and I don't wanna waste my time.
Yah. I used to be like that. This place, my marketing groups and my clients are pretty much the only places/people I share advice with, when it's asked for. Mainly because I've learned a lot on SS and in my marketing groups and of course it keeps my clients coming back as a trusted source of info. But anyone else, I look at the context (ie, the person asking) and if I don't know them, or they seem like a time waster, I avoid it. If that's being cold, so be it, but I think it's cold for them to waste my time. Anyone with half a brain knew that thread was a complete time waster from the context alone. The fact that you keep trying to justify it shows me that you fail to see the broader context and the obvious conclusion it was headed towards. I been here long enough to know SS and to know when to fold em. Pearls and swine bro.backbreaker said:oh i never said they listened. but look at it like tihs. how many times do you give advice to peole and they actually do listen? just about every guy i know asks me man how do i get cut up like you are. i tell them they don't do it and still *****. how many times do people ask me man how do i become successful and i tell them and they don't put in the work and *****. how many AA meetings i've been to how many guys i've sponsored adn told this is what you have to do to stay clean and sober, they dont' do it, then *****.
people in general don't listen. but that does not mean you turn a cold sholder at least to me it doesnt'. no one will ever say i was an ******* to them or didn't try. that 40 year old addict who asked me when he was 25 how to get clean and ****ed up can't blame anyone but him beucase i tol dhim. others told him.
First of all, how do you know that the girl in question was 'cute'? She never posted any pics. Second, the reaction is somewhat understandable considering this forum is 99.9% male. When a woman opens an account here and asks for dating advice, it's bound to turn into a circus. Just like a guy asking for dating advice on some feminist message board.backbreaker said:this doens't have anything to do with that but nothing peeves me / irks me off more than IRL when you are sitting down and a group of dudes are just acting like a normal group of dudes and a cute girl is introoduced to the group for whatever the reason may be and now everyone around you is just trying way too hard. telling over the top jokes, it's like most guys just loose their whatever when a girl is present.
**** really you can go a long with with women by just not being that guy.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
i don't have to justify anything. i know i didn't do anything that was "un djish" by my standards and at the end of the day that's all that matters.Warrior74 said:Yah. I used to be like that. This place, my marketing groups and my clients are pretty much the only places/people I share advice with, when it's asked for. Mainly because I've learned a lot on SS and in my marketing groups and of course it keeps my clients coming back as a trusted source of info. But anyone else, I look at the context (ie, the person asking) and if I don't know them, or they seem like a time waster, I avoid it. If that's being cold, so be it, but I think it's cold for them to waste my time. Anyone with half a brain knew that thread was a complete time waster from the context alone. The fact that you keep trying to justify it shows me that you fail to see the broader context and the obvious conclusion it was headed towards. I been here long enough to know SS and to know when to fold em. Pearls and swine bro.
I can respect that. I've always had respect for you because you speak your mind and back your beliefs even if I don't agree with them all the time. We are both helpers in our own way. We wouldn't even post if we thought it wasn't going to help someone. I'm just selective about who deserves my time. At some point I'm either stroking my own ego, or failing to be honest by wasting words on the undeserving.backbreaker said:i don't have to justify anything. i know i didn't do anything that was "un djish" by my standards and at the end of the day that's all that matters.
this is the married / unmarried DJ argument all over again. there is no right answer. there are different brands of djism. i'm a helper. it's why i thrive in AA/NA. i like to help. you aren't. there is nothing wrong with that. but it doesn't make me wrong and i don't have to justify **** to you or anyone else nor you me.
Christ, really?Warrior74 said:Boys, BB here is a great example. He states his opinion and doesn't get butthurt over a disagreement. He speaks directly to the person talking to him. Learn a lesson. This is how a man acts.
I don't cringe (maybe a little) but I'd prefer a solid wall of TITS OR GTFO! whenever a unique snowflake comes here.Mike32ct said:I cringe when guys hit on new female posters. For example,
"I live near your city. PM me and we can have a drink."
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
All good points.Danger said:I think the latest thread s
howed just how badly men will stab eachother over a woman. White knights are a perfect example of that.
Not disagreeing with your assertation though. If I was a woman, I would love to surround myself with men to get whatever I wanted. And it doesn't hurt that they are all "d1cks in a glass" in case of emergency.
That's a pretty firm friendzone right there.ive said:i dont like any of my guy friends, it is not rational i have not sat down with a notebook writing pluses and minuses to decide whether or not they are eligible. it is binary - you like the person or you dont like the if you are not attracted to the person, even if he is the most eligible person on earth you dont like him.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
the funny thing is, I might list.....maybe.... 1/3rd of the **** that actually goes on in my life. most of the time i don't even bother. I'm an interesting dude. I have a life beucase i get out there and do ****. sometimes good **** sometimes bad **** but i get out there. the more you get out the more interesting your life is. I actually go out of my way to dumb down ****.cordoncordon said:Just read this and the other closed thread. There are so many fails (from both sides) that I don't even know where to begin.
So I will cliff it:
Girl seemed decent.
Guys offered some decent advice.
Girl starts to feel a little empowered, ignores some good advice, senses a gang bang about to happen, but she quickly quells that and says "enough".
Some guys on here get their testes all up and bothered, which I see a lot with a group of men and a lone female, and the thread goes to ****e.
Same old same old.
OT: BB man I don't know how you do it. You seem to run with a lot of really odd and drama filled people from reading all of your posts. From all your friends that can't seem to exist without cheating on one another and gossiping back and forth, to your 'meetings' full of abused, unstable, broken people, it just seems like it's all too much. You have more drama in one week than I do in an entire year. Not sure how much of that is actually 100% accurate and how much of it is your interpretation of it all, but either way, remove yourself from all of that. Or don't.
I did have to chuckle at whomever said upthread something about BB responding to others in this thread the way we all should. No knock on BB, because he offers some good advice at times, but he really is not the one to emulate when it comes to responding to others on this thread or this site in general. He has had more blowups, leavings of the site, and reconciliations than Rhianna and Chris Brown haha. I think even he will admit that one.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.