"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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"I like to take it slow before having sex" ... then f_cks some other guys first time!

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So I met this girl ... She is the good friend and roommate of a very good buddyof mine, so tried to be considerate and nice to her ... We met a few times and got on well ... After a party, we ended up making out ... She then said to me "I like to take it slow before having sex" ... I say Ok, and try to respect that ... After one or two more dates, she stops responding to my texts and calls ... Then hear from my friend that she ended up hooking up with some guy she slept with the first night she met him ... I was over at my friend's place, and she was getting all stressed because he didn't call ... Then as soon as he called, she rushed out to b*ng him ... A few weeks later, apparently he dumped her and told her it was because he did not want to be exclusive ... Meanwhile, she still wants nothing to do with me, even though I tried to listen to what she wanted ... Where did I go wrong? And how do I get to be the other guy next time?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Well, since this is a picture perfect post, I am cautious about its intentions. I'm not saying anything, I'm just cautious..


Girl saying "I like to take it slow before having sex", implies she wants to have sex, as in sex now.. You should have kept at it.


She wants to do nothing with you because even after she didn't give you pvssy you still after her, like some desparate freak, she wants a real man.




This can be answered by reading the DJ Bible, which also should have told you not to do what you did. Also, IMO all women want to have sex now, it's just a matter of bringing them up to it, and if it's too time consuming then she's a stuck up and not worth your time.
 

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Sorry, I am not sure what you mean by a "picture perfect" post?
 

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djSlvt said:
Well, since this is a picture perfect post, I am cautious about its intentions. I'm not saying anything, I'm just cautious..


Girl saying "I like to take it slow before having sex", implies she wants to have sex, as in sex now.. You should have kept at it.


She wants to do nothing with you because even after she didn't give you pvssy you still after her, like some desparate freak, she wants a real man.




This can be answered by reading the DJ Bible, which also should have told you not to do what you did. Also, IMO all women want to have sex now, it's just a matter of bringing them up to it, and if it's too time consuming then she's a stuck up and not worth your time.

See, I don't understand how "taking it slow" means she wants sex NOW. Common sense tells me she wants to wait on sex.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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She left out the key phrase here - "with you". It's always implied, and it's code for "next" usually.
 

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Babnik said:
See, I don't understand how "taking it slow" means she wants sex NOW. Common sense tells me she wants to wait on sex.


Ok, so they making out, and suddenly she talks about sex. Sex wasn't implied by him, and she brings it up. I find the guy slow on this, from what I read. Thus I assume he wasn't pushing for sex but she brought it up. That means she wants sex. Her saying what she said I take as her teathing him "...so you so nice to me and all, you know I TOO like to take things slow before SEX".


No reason why girl would bring sex up to say no we can't do it. If she don't want to do it, there are other ways to say that. SEX is the key word.


I'd take it as if girl wants to test me. Here I am playing her, and she wants to hold out on me, that's to test if I'm for real. Keep pushing her, says no, we done.
 

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Ok, so they making out, and suddenly she talks about sex. Sex wasn't implied by him, and she brings it up. I find the guy slow on this, from what I read. Thus I assume he wasn't pushing for sex but she brought it up. That means she wants sex. Her saying what she said I take as her teathing him "...so you so nice to me and all, you know I TOO like to take things slow before SEX".


No reason why girl would bring sex up to say no we can't do it. If she don't want to do it, there are other ways to say that. SEX is the key word.


Even after your explanation of I TOO like to things slow before SEX made no sense. If she TOO wants it slow, why does it mean she wants it now?



But really WHO CARES? She is a HO. Have respect, forget the HO.

Now watch how this one HO will change his mind about all women... that they are all hoes.
 

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What I said made no sense??? Babnik.. I'll explain it further, but only if more people ask me for it.


It makes perfect sense to me when girl teethes guy.
 

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What I said made no sense??? Babnik.. I'll explain it further, but only if more people ask me for it.


It makes perfect sense to me when girl teethes guy.

If she TOO wants to wait before sex then why the heck does it mean that she wants it now if she TOO wants to WAIT?

This hurts my brain.

But then agree that a girl like that isn't really worth a thread ;).
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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Wait...... NO, when girl says I TOO want to wait does not mean she really wants to wait. When she's teething the guy and saying "man, I see you taking it slow with me, you know, I TOOOOOOOOO like to wait." She is telling the guy you're a slow dumb fvck, start doing something a real man would do to a woman. Don't take what the b1tch says for face value. You can even look at her actions, she fvcked another dude when she met him, she wants a real pimp, that's all.


Anyway, I don't expect you to understand this. A) I might not be able to say what I mean over the forum, and B) you might have different understanding of things I say. Natural thing, sometimes people just can't understand one another. I'm gonna PM you.
 

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WHolly smolly !!

i have to say something similar happened to me...


I had a first date second date, ....then didn't see her around no commmunicaiton comes back online to say shes got a bf.


IT s a biatch ....what you going ot do ?
 
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Hey, look on the bright side, it could be worst. Now imagine you were a virgin, and she was a virgin, and the same thing happened. I dont think anyone can top that and it happened to me.
 

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You should have pushed for sex that night alot harder and then banged her. She lost interest because you didn't try to bang her enough, so she went and got a guy that wanted to treat her like a slut, and she liked it.
 

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Women make perfectley good,steady,guys feel like sh1t for being a good man and actually trying to respect her body...yet they'll secretley swoon for the 25 year old,college dropout working at BlockBuster and has the acne scars and the broken down civic...even though he's a sleaze that only makes sexual passes at her..

Why him and not the dude that respects her?

Cuz he's actually trying to **** her.That's what men do..

If a guy doesn't try to **** her she'll figure he's unfit for her or unattracted to her.

If he decides to persist, she'll make him pay through the nose by being an emotional tampon for months before considering to give him any again...if he decides to persist..

Yes,all of this heartbreak and hell demon behavior they have is because they fear rejection like death and they all feel like they're ugly deep down..


Women don't know how to verbalize this...

That's why women rarley approach men,cuz they know they don't have to and more importantly they figure the guy doesn't really want her if he doesn't make a pass....

That's just the way it goes...

Stop chasing women and let them come to you and when you do start things up,make sure you are being a real man with needs and not some imaginary,asexual b1tch-boy..
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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Tha Realnezz said:
Women make perfectley good,steady,guys feel like sh1t for being a good man and actually trying to respect her body...yet they'll secretley swoon for the 25 year old,college dropout working at BlockBuster and has the acne scars and the broken down civic...even though he's a sleaze that only makes sexual passes at her..

Why him and not the dude that respects her?

Cuz he's actually trying to **** her.That's what men do..

If a guy doesn't try to **** her she'll figure he's unfit for her or unattracted to her.

If he decides to persist, she'll make him pay through the nose by being an emotional tampon for months before considering to give him any again...if he decides to persist..

Yes,all of this heartbreak and hell demon behavior they have is because they fear rejection like death and they all feel like they're ugly deep down..


Women don't know how to verbalize this...

That's why women rarley approach men,cuz they know they don't have to and more importantly they figure the guy doesn't really want her if he doesn't make a pass....

That's just the way it goes...

Stop chasing women and let them come to you and when you do start things up,make sure you are being a real man with needs and not some imaginary,asexual b1tch-boy..
And if he doesn't want a sl*t like that?

I'd say that if you do want a slut then do push for sex, but if you don't then go through enough women who are willing to wait themselves because they actually respect themselves and don't want to be a slut and will put anti-slut defense.
 

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You should have pushed for sex that night alot harder and then banged her. She lost interest because you didn't try to bang her enough, so she went and got a guy that wanted to treat her like a slut, and she liked it.
Yeah man, this is a classic example of a chick saying she wants one thing while completely wanting the opposite.

You should have kept pushing on, preferably the same night, but you shouldn't have let a couple dates go by without getting at least your fingers stinky.

Live and learn.
 

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Wtf?

I swear you guys just make stuff up on the fly sometimes.

I make a girl wait if I feel like it. I just did last week. She said she rented a movie and would I like her to bring it over. So I said okay and watched the movie mostly but i teased her and flirted with her but i never made any move because i didn't feel like it. It's kind of fun because I'm not retarded, and I know what "watch a movie" really means, and made her suffer through wanting it and getting 0.

The NEXT day she asks TO COOK ME DINNER (and try again) so she comes over to cook for me and we have a few drinks and finally after taking my sweet old time I kiss her and she's all over that like your mom on your uncle bill...then we have sex.

What is this crap about "oh she moved on and found another guy because he's a real man and would have sex with her and you wouldn't?" WTF? I demonstrated plenty of value and showed her a good time and left her wondering why I hadn't tried anything. "Is he scared?" "Does he not like me what way?" "Am I too ugly?" So she tries again the next day by cooking for me and bringing wine.

If at any point she says "i want to wait for sex" and i had never said anything about sex I'd reply with "Who said anything about sex? Just how easy do you think I am anyway?" and kept on going on with the making out.

As an aside... i can't believe the number of women who before i have sex with them always want to ply me with alcohol. I thought it was dudes who got their dates drunk :)



Whoever said this:

"Women make perfectley good,steady,guys feel like sh1t for being a good man and actually trying to respect her body."

What? Not asking for sex isn't respecting her. It's her decision. You just put it on the table. That's a terrible mindset. I so often turn everything around so that it works out that they're persuing ME and i really don't have to do sh1t. Hell one girl asked me to hang out and i patted her head figuratively and said "Good job. I like girls with initiative. I'm proud of you." Now she tries to initiate things all the time. Girls make good pets.

So in the end... what i'm long windedly trying to say... it doesn't matter. Press her for sex.. don't press her for sex.. who knows what she'll really do? She'll fvck you today or tomorrow if you showed her a lot of value already. You should be setting her up beforehand so she's just sitting there looking at you with big eyes wondering and eagerly waiting for when you're going to cave into her sexual demands.
 

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mrRuckus said:
Wtf?

I swear you guys just make stuff up on the fly sometimes.

I make a girl wait if I feel like it. I just did last week. She said she rented a movie and would I like her to bring it over. So I said okay and watched the movie mostly but i teased her and flirted with her but i never made any move because i didn't feel like it. It's kind of fun because I'm not retarded, and I know what "watch a movie" really means, and made her suffer through wanting it and getting 0.

The NEXT day she asks TO COOK ME DINNER (and try again) so she comes over to cook for me and we have a few drinks and finally after taking my sweet old time I kiss her and she's all over that like your mom on your uncle bill...then we have sex.

What is this crap about "oh she moved on and found another guy because he's a real man and would have sex with her and you wouldn't?" WTF? I demonstrated plenty of value and showed her a good time and left her wondering why I hadn't tried anything. "Is he scared?" "Does he not like me what way?" "Am I too ugly?" So she tries again the next day by cooking for me and bringing wine.

If at any point she says "i want to wait for sex" and i had never said anything about sex I'd reply with "Who said anything about sex? Just how easy do you think I am anyway?" and kept on going on with the making out.

As an aside... i can't believe the number of women who before i have sex with them always want to ply me with alcohol. I thought it was dudes who got their dates drunk :)



Whoever said this:

"Women make perfectley good,steady,guys feel like sh1t for being a good man and actually trying to respect her body."

What? Not asking for sex isn't respecting her. It's her decision. You just put it on the table. That's a terrible mindset. I so often turn everything around so that it works out that they're persuing ME and i really don't have to do sh1t. Hell one girl asked me to hang out and i patted her head figuratively and said "Good job. I like girls with initiative. I'm proud of you." Now she tries to initiate things all the time. Girls make good pets.

So in the end... what i'm long windedly trying to say... it doesn't matter. Press her for sex.. don't press her for sex.. who knows what she'll really do? She'll fvck you today or tomorrow if you showed her a lot of value already. You should be setting her up beforehand so she's just sitting there looking at you with big eyes wondering and eagerly waiting for when you're going to cave into her sexual demands.
Good post, I did the same thing with this HB.. she kept saying over the phone "I'm coming over.." and I'd say "no you're not", well that just drove her nuts and yes eventually I gave it to her and she was hooked. Moral of the story, if they like ya, they won't stop liking you the next day because you didnt pursue sex with them.
 

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Classic case of actions over words.

You were the guy that they want to wait on because every time that they give it up they get dumped, but instead of waiting they give it up and drop you like a bad habit.

This site is all about being the best self that is possible, but this topic isn't addressed as thoroughly as it should be. When you are the best thing that you can be a girl will come up with stupid ways to grasp on to you, this is one example of such.

I wasn't going to reply after Tha Realnezz since his post summed up a lot of what I was going to say. But the posts after his showed how inexperience can misinterpreter the actual message. Your a nice guy. She wants a nice guy but she doesn't want to wait forever for a nice guy to make a move. She is used to guys pushing things forward and being persistent. You respected her and didn't do so. I agree with that attitude but there comes a time. Her first impression was I would consider dating him long term (that is how girls think). But you took too long and failed to pursue. So she hooked up with a guy that gave her drama (pretended she didn't want it even though she did the whole time) and acts like it's his fault for fvcking and chucking her.

My personal rule is to be either straight up with wanting to sleep with a girl and if I dont I move on, or to take three dates and then delete her number and move on if I haven't hit it. I don't know hold old you are, but I've followed this rule since I was 19 and have been successful with it.
 

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