“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Holy hell, haven't had this happen in a while...

This is that 911 chick that I landed in my recovery thread. To recap, we went out together, got drunk, stumbled back to my place, she got naked, and eventually needed to call 911 because she was having a panic attack. I let that one slide because we were both intoxicated. I banged her the next morning, then ended up banging her that night too.

Here's what's happened since... I was heading on another date with a different girl Sunday night and she texted me this:

I'm starting to have feelings for you. Would like to get to know you more. Cheesy I know, we've slept together twice now and it felt so good to be close to someone who doesn't just have sex with you and then just take off. You don't strike me as that guy
Feelings? After seeing each only two times? WOAH.

Yesterday she asked to see me soon and I told her I had plans for that night, and have my kid the rest of the week.

Next I get this...

Hey just one question, was I a rebound for you?
I told her no and she apologizes profusely and asks me to forgive her. At that point, I stopped responding to her texts.

A few hours later I get this:

Just one last thing, I know you've been really hurt in the past and I think you're great, there are no strings attached and if you ever need me to watch your little guy for you, I'm here for you
I never told her ANYTHING about my exes. I have a feeling she made my facebook wall reading material. And watch my kid? NO.

Now, there's a guy at my regular hangout who seems to try and flirt with all the women there. He sent me a message on facebook last night...

Hey Des! How's it going? I was just curious, I noticed you and M together on Saturday, and I was wondering if you were seeing each other? If so, you have yourself a good girl!
WHAT THE FVCK IS GOING ON???
 

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Panic Attack = Drama/Attention Wh0re

Nobody healthy gets a panic attack - psychologically unstable or emotionally out of whack.

She's sounds like she loves the challenge of wanting what she can't have, and has been hurt before too often. Though she may mean truly what she says, there's too many red flags at this early stage to possibly indicate that she is emotionally damaged goods.

I can guarantee you she thinks you are way out of her league and her behavior shows very low-self esteem. While this is exactly what you need on a 'recovery/rebound' from your recently dissolved LTR to boost your own self-esteem/ego, she obviously think otherwise perhaps and is looking for something more.

Just take care of yourself and don't become a Kirk Douglas in Fatal Attraction.

With respect,

Exodus
 

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The first text was meant to lead you or strip you of some mystery, the others spoke volumes.

Stage five clinger I'd say.
The guy ... an orbiter? Who knows.

Too bad these types will thread themselves into every aspect of your life and eventually try to control it. Too bad, because they also typically buy you stuff :)

SH
 

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^^^This.


Of course she is starting to get feelings for you....you've banged her twice in the 2 times you have seen her---that pushes every insecurity button in a girl's mind. Then she pushes you a bit, you pull away, she pushes harder....and now like Danger said she will do almost anything to see you again to get a sense of security and tell herself she wasn't just used for sex.


I remember a few years the back the now-retired poster SINISTAR had a thread titled [in]security. To this day I think it is one of the most accurate essays on women's minds that I've ever read on this site.
 

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if you would take this chick and spend one night with her kicking it and not push for sex, you would have this chick eating out of the palm of your hand. Couscous is correct all this chick needs is for you to think that you like her for her. once she does that, the flood gates will open
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Allright, well since I have no problem being a guinea pig when it comes to learning about women, I'm going to take backbreaker's suggestion and take her out on a real date.

I had to set it straight with her that I don't let my kid meet anybody I'm dating for a few months until I know it's serious.

At this point I'm still more fond of the other girl I'm dating, but we'll see how things go. I may end up losing both at my birthday party this Saturday :D
 

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Sounds like this girl might be a good source for some entertaining stories in the future, so I'm looking forward to it.

As for the guy, maybe he's not an orbiter, maybe he's just been contemplating trying to hook up with her, so he's sending out a feeler trying to determine what her availability status is.
 

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zekko said:
As for the guy, maybe he's not an orbiter, maybe he's just been contemplating trying to hook up with her, so he's sending out a feeler trying to determine what her availability status is.
I'm pretty sure that's what he's doing. He tries to pick up every woman who walks into the place, but he's got no game.

I'm probably not going to hold onto her for a long time. She's got an awesome body, but that's about all she's got going for her. Here's some background on her...

She told me her father was a druggie and her mother just didn't bother with the kids, so she was practically raised by her older brother.

She was with this old dude for quite some time until he got arrested. She also has a previous marriage and three kids to show for it. She ended up being homeless in Ontario and had to get a job to make enough money to move back here. She's been in my city for a total of about three weeks.

I ran into a mutual friend today while doing some errands so she filled me in a bit about her past. She apparently got married to the old dude (although she says it wasn't a real wedding.) From what my friend said, she was with the old dude for many, many years and he treated her kids as if they were his own.

I think it's funny that she asked if I was on the rebound. I think it's more the other way around.

Regardless, I'll probably take her out for a couple of dates. She seems like an extremely boring chick aside from the drama that's already taken place. We've chatted enough for me to try and find some common ground, and I haven't found anything yet. I'm planning on taking her to the flea market on Sunday to browse, so maybe we'll click on something while we're there.
 

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You should have nexted her after she called 911. Don't see this chic again, you will end up like that dude who dates Jodi Arias.
 

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Desdinova said:
She told me her father was a druggie and her mother just didn't bother with the kids, so she was practically raised by her older brother.
Im sorry I cant hold my tongue any longer. Youve been around a while to know the sort of woman youre looking at here. I see the words 'druggie' - thats a good start, 'mother didnt bother with the kids = very possible Cluster B that would mean, 'raised by older brother' - um, yea ok, that could mean any-thing... If you get my drift.



Desdinova said:
She was with this old dude for quite some time until he got arrested. She also has a previous marriage and three kids to show for it. She ended up being homeless in Ontario and had to get a job to make enough money to move back here. She's been in my city for a total of about three weeks.
Well she sounds like a star. Make sure you dont use HER condoms if she offers you any.

Desdinova said:
Regardless, I'll probably take her out for a couple of dates. She seems like an extremely boring chick aside from the drama that's already taken place. We've chatted enough for me to try and find some common ground, and I haven't found anything yet. I'm planning on taking her to the flea market on Sunday to browse, so maybe we'll click on something while we're there.
Cmon are you serious? Go back over what you have written about this girl in the very short space of time youve known her. RED FLAGS GALORE You arent seriously thinking you may 'connect' with this damaged female are you?

I mean, Im shaking my head, seriously. But then again, as someone else posted, it could make for fun posts from you. Dont take what Im saying the wrong way, but you escaped (it seems) the first contact/sex session intact. Get the fvck away from this pyscho.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I can't believe people are giving advice to take this whacko on a date after she just called 911 on their last date. Wtf?
 

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i don't agree with the tone of headlightson post but the last part i do want to say that is true

the thing is she's probbly a druggie. of course you are going to connect with her beucse she thrives off using people it's how she gets by. it's what she does and she's better at it then you. these are the poeple i'm around everyday and see everyday and help everyday.

when you hear the words drug addict= leave. no hesitation. you will get used. you will connect with her beucase she doesn't have a her, she has a whatever she needs to be to get her hooks in you. she's very bad news.
You should have nexted her after she called 911. Don't see this chic again, you will end up like that dude who dates Jodi Arias.
i once ****ed a girl.. for a few months, after she came over my house and i had to take her to the hospital for alcohol poisoning. her having a panic attack is no real indication of interest. if it was a real panic attack i don't see the big deal then again i dont' know **** about panic attacks
 

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backbreaker said:
i don't agree with the tone of headlightson post but the last part i do want to say that is true

the thing is she's probbly a druggie. of course you are going to connect with her beucse she thrives off using people it's how she gets by. it's what she does and she's better at it then you. these are the poeple i'm around everyday and see everyday and help everyday.

when you hear the words drug addict= leave. no hesitation. you will get used. you will connect with her beucase she doesn't have a her, she has a whatever she needs to be to get her hooks in you. she's very bad news. i once ****ed a girl.. for a few months, after she came over my house and i had to take her to the hospital for alcohol poisoning. her having a panic attack is no real indication of interest. if it was a real panic attack i don't see the big deal then again i dont' know **** about panic attacks
you should never deal with having to baby sit a woman no matter how hot she is. It's not worth the trouble. The last time I did it was with a chic at a bar, she got so drunk and threw a rant at the bar and grabbed her keys and drove off drunk.

I should have nexted her after that but no, kept going back and nothing good happened believe me.
 

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i don't agree with the tone of headlightson post but the last part i do want to say that is true
What the heck is wrong with the tone of my post! Im being up front about that fact that I think:

1. She is a nut job, with the potential to harm the OP and his kid, and

2. He is an idiot for even contemplating seeing her again.

In so far as this forum is - at least partially - here to help other men, me being a bit brutal, and non offensive to the OP personally, I think is what we need more of.

I mean the fact here, is that it is so glaringly obvious that there should be no further contact with this woman, that OP shouldn't be thinking about her, let alone wandering around bloody flea markets trying to 'click.'

FFS...
 
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Danger said:
This is a case where I think she just feels that you used her for sex. Nothing complicated about it.

[Her] Translation: I still have this feeling, I want to know if it's true or not.

[Her] Translation: Your lack of reply has sent my hamster spinning at light speed. At this point I will do most anything to see you again, even if it means we are just sex.
Great deduction.

Desinova,

You think this chick may be crazy and not LTR material. Don't try to convince yourself or her otherwise. No need to take her out, she's perfectly happy spending time with you at your place. She seems like a blast to be around, but not someone you should invest too much resources in.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Desdinova said:
I'm pretty sure that's what he's doing. He tries to pick up every woman who walks into the place, but he's got no game.

I'm probably not going to hold onto her for a long time. She's got an awesome body, but that's about all she's got going for her. Here's some background on her...

She told me her father was a druggie and her mother just didn't bother with the kids, so she was practically raised by her older brother.

She was with this old dude for quite some time until he got arrested. She also has a previous marriage and three kids to show for it. She ended up being homeless in Ontario and had to get a job to make enough money to move back here. She's been in my city for a total of about three weeks.

I ran into a mutual friend today while doing some errands so she filled me in a bit about her past. She apparently got married to the old dude (although she says it wasn't a real wedding.) From what my friend said, she was with the old dude for many, many years and he treated her kids as if they were his own.

I think it's funny that she asked if I was on the rebound. I think it's more the other way around.

Regardless, I'll probably take her out for a couple of dates. She seems like an extremely boring chick aside from the drama that's already taken place. We've chatted enough for me to try and find some common ground, and I haven't found anything yet. I'm planning on taking her to the flea market on Sunday to browse, so maybe we'll click on something while we're there.
Des I am disappointed in you. Very disappointed.

If you wanted to hit that for a ONS ok, I could see that. But then you go back for seconds, and now you want to actually take her out? On a normal date? Does not compute. Have your standards fallen this low? Go back and look at what you just wrote, and then ask yourself, "if a friend of mine came to me and asked if this girl is dateable, what would I say to him"? You would tell him HELL NO she isn't. "RUNNN!!"And I can promise you that if you think she is bad now, you taking her on a normal date and not sexing her is going to make her even fall harder for you, in which case she will become even more stalkerish. This girls is low class and has mental issues written all over her, why do you waste your time??

I guess I just don't see the point of all this. You are too old and time is too valuable and your standards should be above all of this. For the life of me I can't see what fun this could even remotely be. Sounds like a nightmare to me.
 

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BeginningDJ said:
Great deduction.

Desinova,

You think this chick may be crazy and not LTR material. Don't try to convince yourself or her otherwise. No need to take her out, she's perfectly happy spending time with you at your place. She seems like a blast to be around, but not someone you should invest too much resources in.
wrong

desi is 35. for the sake of arguement i'm goign to assume the woman is around his age at least over 30. if she's over 30, there is no way he going to go more than 1-2 more dates without showing some non sexual inte


understand what i am saying. i think he should next her she is not a good option but if he is hellbent on seeing her he has tot ake her out to continue to do that and to get what he wants resistance free.
 
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^She will continue to fυck him as long as she self-affirms his acceptance of her.
 

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cordoncordon said:
Des I am disappointed in you. Very disappointed.
Don't pull the trigger on me yet... ;)

Today is my birthday. She messaged me "Happy birthday, hope you have a fantastic day."

I responded with "I'm working, how fantastic can it be?"

Her response: "Whatever"

Next, she makes not one but TWO posts on fb about how men can be such a55holes.

Why did you guys try to convince me otherwise? My gut was right on this one all along. I'll be kicking her to the curb after my party on Saturday.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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