"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I know it's wrong to feel this way but the way women treat me makes me feel like ****

Kal0051

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So I'm not in a good mood today and it's 100% to due with how women are treating me or have treated me. First off there's this one girl I work with who I used to be into. I asked her out months ago (back before xmas) and she rejected me. Well today I found out that I apparently disgust her (she said she felt like she needed to throw up at the thought of me naked) and that after rejecting me she started fvcking this low life drug addict (the guy is not a DJ or alpha male at all, he's just a loser). So basically she's telling me not only am I disgusting but that I have less worth than a 35 year old drug addict. Then tonight one of my female friends (or at least I thought she was a friend) blows me off completely, wasn't even polite and say that she doesn't want to hang out with me ever. And this is an example of how every woman treats me, they try to talk down to me, they lie to me, and they blow me off at every opportunity. I know that feeling this way isn't right but it's still how I feel. I don't know what to do anymore, other than cut off all female contact or block myself off completely from them. Comment however you'd like. Oh, and to the guys that are good with women, do me a favor, pump them and dump them, that's all they're good for.
 

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What? Females like this actually exist around you?

I think you need to start from the basics man... heres some very very general tips.


Be confident - These *****es do NOT deserve you. Obviously that girl is a full blown loser to **** one of the worst losers in our society. Obviously a hoe, obviously not good enough for you, BUT GOOD ENOUGH FOR A DRUG ADDICT. She can't get anyone else besides trashy men that will give her attention. Stay away from her. The good guys like us, who have high standards for beautiful women, will reject a woman like that on the spot. In fact, I don't even think men reject, they just don't "select". You just selected her because I fear you "settled" for someone not meeting up to your standards.


Pumping and dumping is what some men do, but not out of hatred or disrespect for them, and thats not something that you should be doing.

Girl says No, then don't give her any attention, don't talk to her whatever.... maybe an "Okay..." is all that is needed. After that, find another *****, **** her and you'll get over the last girl you were worrying about.

Get some good guy friends. Guy friends are somewhat key. They will always be there for you, and if they are PUA's they will get you so many girls, they will help you get girls and you'll be a MAN.

BE A MAN.
 

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JJaySBK said:
What? Females like this actually exist around you?
this is how all women treat me. The best I've gotten is when a girl just ignores me or straight up says she's not interested. Most try and put me down in some way. Also I couldn't pump and dump because that means that I'd need to get a girl to sleep with me. No girl has ever wanted to sleep with me so all I can hope is that some other guy can make them feel like ****.

And I don't have too many good guy friends anymore. Sure I have people that I hang around with, but I don't think I could ever count on them. Most of my friends I grew up with have moved away.
 

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If women treat you like crap that is usually a sign of being a nice guy. You have to remember that women are naturally afraid of men. For them to get the courage to put a man down to lift up their own ego that man has to reek of niceguy-ness.

I personally have no female friends. To me a woman is either my lover or nothing. This has helped reduce drama in my life by a great deal. Sure i'm friendly to female co-workers and have been to parties where they were around but I do not keep contact with any female that i'm not romantically interested in. Having female friends is not the way I chose to live my life.
 

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f283000 said:
If women treat you like crap that is usually a sign of being a nice guy. You have to remember that women are naturally afraid of men. For them to get the courage to put a man down to lift up their own ego that man has to reek of niceguy-ness.

I personally have no female friends. To me a woman is either my lover or nothing. This has helped reduce drama in my life by a great deal. Sure i'm friendly to female co-workers and have been to parties where they were around but I do not keep contact with any female that i'm not romantically interested in. Having female friends is not the way I chose to live my life.
yeah well I think that nice guy you talk about is starting to die and all that's left is this bitter guy that wants to hurt all women (emotionally, not physically). I'm starting to cut contact with my female friends because of the way they are treating me and am starting to agree that female friends are worthless.
 

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f283000 said:
Having female friends is not the way I chose to live my life.

I had 1 female friend and we ended up fighting pretty badly all the time, and she ended up telling my "lover" friends about the beans I spilled or the mistakes I made in the past.

Had a female friend tell my ex-girlfriend that I cheated on her, when in reality I took my best bro-friend's girlfriend to starbucks since she took me to work. My female friend saw us in starbucks and told my ex girlfriend about it. I got accused of cheating and then I had to explain myself.

Why do I need to explain myself in the first place? Because I had a chick friend who created so much drama.


ONLY REASON TO HAVE A CHICK FRIEND - To scale up your social value. Get two chick friends, play with them while you're in the mall. Guys will think you are good and women will be fascinated. Especially if they're hot chick friends, which are the easiest to get (unfortuantely, since men get stuck there not on purpose)


Kal.. be the nice confident guy that does his own thing. Doesn't care about women. If you want to hurt them, then you secretely still care about them. They affect you, and that means they have an influence on you... which brings you back to ground 0 again.
 

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Looking through your post history. I am gonna say this, and this is the last reply you are going to get from me on anything.

THE PROBLEM IS YOU. FIX THE PROBLEM.

All of your problems are between your ears. You need to leave women alone for a while and do some work on who you are as a man. You need to develop every aspect of your manhood. Then you need to come back to women later.

1. Read the DJ Bible sections on inner game. Read the book of pook.
2. Do some strong reflection on your life, your past and where your issues come from. If You have deep seated issues that probably stem from childhood or your youth, root them out and face those demons.
3. Exercise. Mind and Body are one. Working on your inner game while working on your outer game provides balance.
4. Possibly talk to a professional couselor or therapist.
5. Realize that no thread on sosuave is going to replace doing the hardwork it takes to change. Recongnize that there is no magic bullet, no simple sentence or magical incantation that will fix all of your problems in the twinklining of an eye.
6. If you pray, do a morning prayer, do a morning meditation and affirmations. Learn to control and focus your mind.
7. Decide now if you want to change.
8. Actually do something (the thing 90% of the people never really do).
9. When you do come back to the game, come to win.
10. Learn to have fun in life. Life is short, enjoy it.

Good luck.
 

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So the reason women treat me like **** is because of me? I call bs on that, you guys are always saying it's the guy's fault that women are low life *****es. Maybe you guys should stop defending women's actions and start treating them like ****. The only reason they act like that is because of guys putting up with it. So fvck it and fvck u. Out
 

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If you are getting this kind of reaction pretty much all of the time then it's a pretty good indicator that there is something about your presentation, behavior or mannerisms that are turning them off. The most likely culprit is either your appearance/hygiene or your behavior/habits. While you can't change your facial features and to change your body takes time...you CAN do a lot to make the most of what God gave you. Some exampes:

hair: keep it clean, neat and in a style that flatters/frames your face.

face: if you have facial hair, keep it neat and short. If you have problem skin get ProActive or something similar to try to improve it.

body: make sure you shower daily, use deodorant, and that your clothes are clean, neat, fit properly and look good on you. Make sure your hands and nails are clean. If you have excessive body hair try to get some of it removed if it's really bad.

Brush and take care of your teeth. Make sure you don't have bad breath. Don't do gross things like blow snot rockets or pick your nose or ass.

If you want to be successful with the opposite sex you need to commit to doing the work it's going to take. If you aren't presenting the best possible you how can you expect women to view you as a prize?

Really examine yourself and improve what you can.
 

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One more thing about the friends. Do you always complain and have a negative attitude? If you do that is probably part of the problem. People don't like to be around a lot of negativity and it gets annoying and frustrating. Make sure you don't let your frustration with women cause you to be miserable to be around.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Kal0051 said:
So the reason women treat me like **** is because of me? I call bs on that, you guys are always saying it's the guy's fault that women are low life *****es. Maybe you guys should stop defending women's actions and start treating them like ****. The only reason they act like that is because of guys putting up with it. So fvck it and fvck u. Out
Unjustified anger is never sexy. If this is how you're reacting to guys that are trying to help you, I can only imagine how you treat you the girls you're interested in.

It doesn't affect me whether or not you learn the lessons on this site. But for your own sake, take these messages to heart if you want to get with girls in the future.
 

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I look fine, probably better than 75% of guys out there. My behaviours also fine except I have no patience for disrespect anymore. So I find I easily get pissed when I'm disrespected, which is primarily coming from women. So maybe ppl can see I'm pissed, which sometimes ppl ask me if I'm ok (I don't tell them what's wrong because I'd rather keep my problems with women a secret).
 

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Kal0051 said:
So the reason women treat me like **** is because of me? I call bs on that, you guys are always saying it's the guy's fault that women are low life *****es. Maybe you guys should stop defending women's actions and start treating them like ****. The only reason they act like that is because of guys putting up with it. So fvck it and fvck u. Out

Now you are just being willfully ignorant. Obviously the message hit home because it got you mad. Why did it get you mad? Because you suspect that its true. That's what humans do when confronted withe the truth.

If all of your interactions with women end in disrespect the only common denominator in all of them is YOU. All of mine don't end in disrespect and for lots of guys they don't end that way. But for you they do. Why? Either you are around some crappy women constantly (which I doubt) or it's you.

You sound like my friend who thinks women should automatically respect him because he's a MAN dammit! But guess what? He shows no one else respect, he just want to take from everyone. Take admiration, take respect, take sex, take attention. Not once does he ever GIVE anything and when he does it comes with HEAVY strings attached. Is this you? What do you bring to the table? What do you give? What do you demand?
 

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Kal0051 said:
I look fine, probably better than 75% of guys out there. My behaviours also fine except I have no patience for disrespect anymore. So I find I easily get pissed when I'm disrespected, which is primarily coming from women. So maybe ppl can see I'm pissed, which sometimes ppl ask me if I'm ok (I don't tell them what's wrong because I'd rather keep my problems with women a secret).
ha , the old "i look better than most people"... if we got a $ (or £ or euro) for every time we read that on the forum we'd all be rich!
:rolleyes:
maybe sort out your anger problems first as well !
 

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Angry bitterness will get you nowhere.

If you can't make yourself happy, why would any girl want to be around you? Or any person at all? Emotions are contagious. Right now you need to be quarantined until you stop being such a downer.

Is there anything at all in life that makes you happy? I don't care if it's comic books and video games, you have to go and enjoy life a little. And if you tell me that there's nothing that makes you happy, that's because you have not looked enough. There are plenty of ways to enjoy life that have nothing to do with women, but until you focus on making yourself a happier person, women will not enjoy you.
 

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Kal0051 said:
So I'm not in a good mood today and it's 100% to due with how women are treating me or have treated me. First off there's this one girl I work with who I used to be into. I asked her out months ago (back before xmas) and she rejected me. Well today I found out that I apparently disgust her (she said she felt like she needed to throw up at the thought of me naked)

Wow that's extremely HARSH even for a woman....be honest. How many times are you training in a gym a week, do you eat clean most of the time day in day out and stay looking clean/groomed and are highly hygienic.

and that after rejecting me she started fvcking this low life drug addict (the guy is not a DJ or alpha male at all, he's just a loser). So basically she's telling me not only am I disgusting but that I have less worth than a 35 year old drug addict. Then tonight one of my female friends (or at least I thought she was a friend) blows me off completely, wasn't even polite and say that she doesn't want to hang out with me ever. And this is an example of how every woman treats me, they try to talk down to me, they lie to me, and they blow me off at every opportunity.

This is only two women...you're talking as if you know a whole bunch of women, when I honestly don't think you do at all!!


I know that feeling this way isn't right but it's still how I feel. I don't know what to do anymore, other than cut off all female contact or block myself off completely from them. Comment however you'd like. Oh, and to the guys that are good with women, do me a favor, pump them and dump them, that's all they're good for.
You seem lost, out-of-control. Wake the **** up. You know exactly what you need to do stop dinking around here on this forum and get to it....could take months could take a year or two. Yet submerse yourself in YOU, work out live healthy. Pick up a hobby/passion or two (or get back into ones you used to have). You come off down right boring, pissed off at the world, mediocrity is ****. Bring a bigger, better, more interesting you out!! Do it for you foremost and fulfill your happiness first...than once you achieve this it will literally become infectious. You'll be that "guy" women want to be around who make them feel ALIVE. Except you'll be entertaining yourself and enjoying them as a side benefit.

You're making the negativites about women and bad personal interactions your life!! This is the worse thing you could do. Get your head out your ass.
 

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I've had the same thing bro. Once she found out I liked her i.e. I asked her out...she told people we knew that I stalked her, and that she was nervous around me, that I'm "freaking her out." Then she goes off and not only gives her puss up to a drug addict, but marries him. Now she's not happy. Of course. Fvck em.
 
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Kal0051 said:
Well today I found out that I apparently disgust her (she said she felt like she needed to throw up at the thought of me naked)

Kal0051 said:
I look fine, probably better than 75% of guys out there

Has it ever occurred to you, and your over-inflated ego, Mr. Better Looking than 75% of guys out there, that this girl was NOT a bytch, but she was just being COMPLETELY HONEST!

In fact, all of the other girls who have rejected you have felt the same way about you, but they were nicer about it.

Can you ACCEPT that you look like crap, and need to work on your looks??

Face the situation logically, forget about GAME, and take her "honesty" as a sign that you need to start making DRASTIC changes to your body, your hair, and probably your fashion sense, and the sooner you make that change, the sooner you will see improvement in your confidence, as well as your results!!!
 

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Honestly, all your posts sound like this man. I don't think this board will do you any good. You need to hang out with one of your male friends who is good with women and learn from him directly, and have them watch some of your interactions with women and tell you what you're doing wrong (i've done this.) A guy doesn't need to be into pick-up theory to be able to answer your questions. Most "naturals" normally know exactly what they're doing... Most guys will take it as a huge compliment if a guy asks them for tips on picking up women....

You're obviously doing sh!t wrong though. The words you use. Your body language. Your personality. The tone of your voice. Your posture. I'm sure some of those things are wrong. If they were all in check - you wouldn't be having problems. Women can be cruel, but they're mostly cruel to men who come off as creepy or sleazeballish.

Your rep may also be hurting you.
If a lot of people where you work think you're strange and awkward - then you have NO chance of getting a woman you work with.
If a lot of people in your social circle (friends) think you're strange and awkward - then you have NO chance of getting a woman within your social circle.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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