"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Alright, I've known about this "community" and all for years now. I once became a ****y funny comedian, a wizard that could hypnotize people with speech, and an automated machine that theorycrafted all dating situations. I guess eventually the beliefs just internalized themselves and I kind of lost the techniques, a good thing in my opinion, though I do wish I could remember some of the **** I used to do because I was generally into it (speaking of which, does anyone remember "The Cube" and what psychological book that was from?).

But now, I'm not interested in playing "The Game" anymore. I'm in college now, second semester of my freshmen year and I just am not into this life the community thinks you have to lead to pick up girls. I have opportunities to go out almost every night, get tanked and hook up with girls, and yet I haven't done this for months. I read posts up here about guys who have to go out 5-6 times a night, working on saying hello, etc, and it's all stupid to me. I tried a bootcamp once and while i think it may have had some benefits I have a huge social circle off of just being interested in other people, that's it.

I'm not necessarily depressed, but I just FEEL like I should be out there, but I look around and realize that this game and all this is nonsense, I can just go out to a frat party, and just wait until I start getting looks from drunk girls, but nowadays I don't even enjoy getting black out, and so the stupid ****ing conversations to get with these girls over loud thumping music is pointless.

In the social area, I don't NEED to meet more people. I enjoy talking to people and everything, but when I meet new people now I realize that people want to get to know me (I guess everyone just wants in tthese pants :p) but I'm just not INTERESTED anymore. What's the point? This isn't supposed to be an ego post, but I've got more friends than I can name, and a core group of close friends I don't feel like switching.


Knowing what we know about the game I just observe many situations and I can tell exactly what's going on. I could say that maybe I want to meet some really dedicated girls, but I've met alot of girls here and so many cheat on their bfs and go out and get tanked with me and my friends and forget about their boyfriends, and these are girls that most guys would DIE for.

Besides *****, I can barely even bring myself to look at girls. I'm not disgusted or even really disappointed in them, I've accepted this, but it's also just turned me off of all the bull**** games and everything, because at the end of the day I know I can just go out to some frat party, get tanked and get some girl. I almost feel like my day game is off because I'm not motivated, and my night game is off because there's no fun in it.

TL: DR

For those with the TL: DR, where can i find inspiration anymore DJs? What can I do to make myself want to go out and talk to women and enjoy it again, otherwise I feel like I'm NEVER going to talk to sober women for longer than a few minutes again.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Really? Everyone up here is completely satisfied with just meeting mediocre but hot women?

I know there's alot of displaced anger and hate from alot of the newcomers here, and so this may sound stupid, but for people who are at that higher level I almost feel like this is a final piece of the puzzle I'm just missing. My life is awesome now, I have many adventures that tons would be envious of, a great group of high status friends that I genuinely like, but I just can't find any girls that are fun and engaging to talk to, and when I do, it's almost like I don't move on them because I'm too busy a girl being impressed that I'm actually enjoying a conversation without a goal with a girl.

I guess I really need to figure out a way to find girls more interesting which is more difficult than before because before I was trying to understand them, but now that I get it and realize that all girls (or most) react to almost the same things, besides when I want to get laid I can't push myself to go out and actually KNOW a girl.
 

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your a FRESHMAN in college..??? and your not interested in the game?? lol that just let me know you SERIOUSLY haven't been played yet...lolz


your gonna fall for a chick she gonna say f u and then your going to seek out how to protect yourself next time...either your gonna become
1..a husband
2..a dork who constantly gets played and never learns
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3. a Zero tolerance ******* who takes what he wants when he wants= don juan

honestly your just not experienced i can tell by your thread but good one though...i suggest you get your heart broken a couple times then post back lol...
 

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I can relate somewhat to the original post.

My advice is just to take time off and work on YOU. Pick up a guitar, start an intense work-out program, get yourself some goals, work on getting good grades/ applying to internships, etc.

Or if you don't feel like doing that just have fun hanging out with your friends without really focusing on girls, because trust me this is hands down going to be the best time of your life and it will end abruptly.

I went through the same thing recently where I just felt like everything was bullsh*t, and I felt like no girl was really worth anything to me anymore.

The funny thing is I started getting more attention from girls when I changed my way of thinking. I interacted with girls without expecting anything in return.

This behavior peaks girls interest whether you want it to or not (of course this will only happen if you have had experience attracting girls in the past).

So just take some time off from the game and see what happens.

"never be too unsure of your actions. All life is an experiment" -Ralph Waldo Emerson
 

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I concur with Badmannaz. You have a lot to learn pooparu. Just because you have a lot of friends and capable of going to frat parties and "bang chicks" doesn't make you a mack nor a DJ. College girls are fine and all, but they lack substance and more often than not don't bring anything to the table unless their legs are spread out on it. Come back when you have some real women under your belt and not girls anyone with a d*ck could fvck due to them being drunk.

You may say you're tired of playing the game, but you haven't even put in the tokens yet. Life is a big game that we all must play. Whether or not you win or lose depends on a plethora of factors.

Oh yeah, what makes you a high status person anyway? Do you own a business? Successful manager? Do you earn six figures? Or do you just base your status on how you're perceived in a university? Outside of campus who's going to give a rats a$$ about some college dude that thinks he's won.

Being in college is a great experience, but it's a small step to a much bigger plateau - the real world. It seperates the men from the boys and you'll learn that almost immediately upon completing school. So get your kicks in and fvck the slvts while you can because it's highly likely it won't last forever. Feel me? Ok good.

I didn't make this to bash you or anything but maybe you can be inspired to achieve greater things because there's plenty to be done man. Hell, the fact that you aren't putting a great deal of importance on women is a good thing. Now you just have to get out there and do other things that will make you happy.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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lmao at ZHAOYUN!!!....yea pooparu you haven't really seen the hell that is women yet hahahaahahhaa like seriously...if you dont plan on getting married anytime soon then your in the dating game whether you like it or not..i came to the conclusion either your PLAYING OR YOUR GETTING PLAYED...so you gotta decide which one you are and act accordingly...i can tell you havet had that little heart of yours rattled yet...hahahaha man...it's hell on earth im so glad im not a freshmen anymore.. ;-) pooparu you'll learn my man
 

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ZhaoYun said:
I concur with Badmannaz. You have a lot to learn pooparu. Just because you have a lot of friends and capable of going to frat parties and "bang chicks" doesn't make you a mack nor a DJ. College girls are fine and all, but they lack substance and more often than not don't bring anything to the table unless their legs are spread out on it. Come back when you have some real women under your belt and not girls anyone with a d*ck could fvck due to them being drunk.

You may say you're tired of playing the game, but you haven't even put in the tokens yet. Life is a big game that we all must play. Whether or not you win or lose depends on a plethora of factors.

Oh yeah, what makes you a high status person anyway? Do you own a business? Successful manager? Do you earn six figures? Or do you just base your status on how you're perceived in a university? Outside of campus who's going to give a rats a$$ about some college dude that thinks he's won.

Being in college is a great experience, but it's a small step to a much bigger plateau - the real world. It seperates the men from the boys and you'll learn that almost immediately upon completing school. So get your kicks in and fvck the slvts while you can because it's highly likely it won't last forever. Feel me? Ok good.

I didn't make this to bash you or anything but maybe you can be inspired to achieve greater things because there's plenty to be done man. Hell, the fact that you aren't putting a great deal of importance on women is a good thing. Now you just have to get out there and do other things that will make you happy.
that's my point, I'm not proclaiming to be a mack or a dj by any means, those titles are stupid anyway. I don't think I should say I'm tired, because I'm not tired at all. And my life is as close as I've ever envisioned it as I've wanted it to be; i'm in the school I've wanted to be at, I get to do the things I want like bouldering, hiking and ****, and in all I almost feel not like I SHOULD be paying more attention to women but that it's not exactly part of what I'm consistently doing.

My thing is that it doesn't look like most **** changes from here, something I've been thinking since way before I thought about this as "the game" or any **** like that. People meet in clubs and bars, and while that's great and all I feel like a lot of people aren't into living life and JUST want to party, even older people I know.

Please, don't apologize on some soft bullsh*t though, straight talk is fine by me and you guys are completely right, I've never gotten burned like most people, and that might be something I need, but at the same time I'm not going into any situation looking to fail no what I mean?

I think what you guys are really showing me is that you're right, I need to take advantage instead of musing over **** now and maybe learn how to incorporate the **** I like to do towards meeting girls more like that, or I've got a host of **** i still wanna pick up that I could do still.

And as like melancholy and whatnot the original post is, a big part of this is that I've gotten so euphoric doing everything I've picked up since coming here that I sometimes don't even see the point in ****ing with something that just flows so smoothly.
 

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pooparu said:
My thing is that it doesn't look like most **** changes from here, something I've been thinking since way before I thought about this as "the game" or any **** like that. People meet in clubs and bars, and while that's great and all I feel like a lot of people aren't into living life and JUST want to party, even older people I know.

Please, don't apologize on some soft bullsh*t though, straight talk is fine by me and you guys are completely right, I've never gotten burned like most people, and that might be something I need, but at the same time I'm not going into any situation looking to fail no what I mean?
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lmao your only as strong as how many failures you've had and learned from them...till then your gonna think like this...the moment you go through what all men have to go through then your tolerance level will decrease for women...as of right now you really dont know what women are...when u get played enough (and you will) then you'll see and then hot girls will not look so hot any more

like for the inexperience a HB10 will make them C*m on themselves
to a DJ he see's a Pretty face nice tits and nice a**...something he's seen a many times...and truth be told you'll find that the hot girls are some of the worst when it comes to sex...i've had better sex with a HB7 lol so you just need to get some experience..self doubt will be your only enemy not the girl...
 

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Badmannaz said:
lmao your only as strong as how many failures you've had and learned from them...till then your gonna think like this...the moment you go through what all men have to go through then your tolerance level will decrease for women...as of right now you really dont know what women are...when u get played enough (and you will) then you'll see and then hot girls will not look so hot any more

like for the inexperience a HB10 will make them C*m on themselves
to a DJ he see's a Pretty face nice tits and nice a**...something he's seen a many times...and truth be told you'll find that the hot girls are some of the worst when it comes to sex...i've had better sex with a HB7 lol so you just need to get some experience..self doubt will be your only enemy not the girl...
While I agree with you, I don't think you understand completely what I'm trying to say because I'm not being too clear. I don't have any problems with women, but nowadays I don't really even recognize a HB 10, because there aren't any. The idea of a perfect woman is a stupid idea that should be tossed away and locked up for ****ing ever. And while I would definitely disagree that I don't have a high tolerance for women's bs, it's only because I don't put up with anyone's bs. To put it in perspective (this is just an example I'm coming off of the top of my head), I recently had a week where a close girl friend of mine was consistently calling and txting me trying to get me to talk to her because she wasted a few hours of my time without telling me. While it seems extreme to some people, everyone who knows me knows I don't like having my time, my **** or my person disrespected. This isn't to tough talk either, but this is just the type of person I am now and I'm satisfied with that.

What I mean though is that there isn't like this extreme excitement like before, I mean when I didn't understand **** and was bumbling around piecing **** together it was scary and I got embarassed and **** but it was fun, but now that I have the skills that can bag girls it's losing all the fun I originally wanted to do this for. A lot of people think you should be bitter or angry or something towards women, please, if you have this mindset I don't really want to hear from . I'm looking for people who have been through this and came out actually liking women MORE. This isn't about DJing as much to me anymore as not wanting to limit myself to only talking to interesting guys and only talking to women for sperm recepticles.
 

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I think a good guy to talk to would be Snow Plowman. I don't know him personally heheh, but from his FR journal, I've seen this exact thing happen to him as well. After high school he placed a persona (or mindset, if you will) that he's too cool for anyone and will not initiate interactions with anyone. And furthermore, I've seen him transition from a positive state of mind (loving everything, very passionate about meeting/greeting people) to negative ones (spiteful, messing with people and simply uncaring about everything in the process) in periods of only a day! Anyhow, from what I've seen recently, he's still passionate about sarging and whatnot, and that may be the answer you're looking for.

As Pook have said, "[A man] never loses his passion, for that would be the death of his soul."

Not really in a state to give quality advice here, but I think you started this journey to incorporate women into your life. SO, in that reason, you have to (with whatever you're passionate about in life) just keep on doing it, but with some sense to incorporate women into it as well.

If you're losing the passion for interactions with the opposite sex then all I can see is a growing emptiness inside you that needs to be filled with something else (hopefully something more gratifying).
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Shaik said:
I think a good guy to talk to would be Snow Plowman. I don't know him personally heheh, but from his FR journal, I've seen this exact thing happen to him as well. After high school he placed a persona (or mindset, if you will) that he's too cool for anyone and will not initiate interactions with anyone. And furthermore, I've seen him transition from a positive state of mind (loving everything, very passionate about meeting/greeting people) to negative ones (spiteful, messing with people and simply uncaring about everything in the process) in periods of only a day! Anyhow, from what I've seen recently, he's still passionate about sarging and whatnot, and that may be the answer you're looking for.

As Pook have said, "[A man] never loses his passion, for that would be the death of his soul."

Not really in a state to give quality advice here, but I think you started this journey to incorporate women into your life. SO, in that reason, you have to (with whatever you're passionate about in life) just keep on doing it, but with some sense to incorporate women into it as well.

If you're losing the passion for interactions with the opposite sex then all I can see is a growing emptiness inside you that needs to be filled with something else (hopefully something more gratifying).
That's exactly what happens to me, except that I never really get negative about life or anything just specifically about people. So many nights everyone's getting ready to go out I feel like just smacking each other and yelling, "WHAT THE **** ARE WE DOING?? THERE'S LIFE OUT THERE!"

Then again, I'm starting to think maybe I'm just hyperactive or something which isn't necessarily bad. what I'm learning now is that maybe I need to just occupy myself with even MORE stuff even though I'm already told I do enough in a day. I think that maybe I'm just passionate about doing alot of different things and alot of people are cool being in their comfort zone.

So I guess now that you guys have helped me there's a few things I need to put into work asap:

1. Pick up even more **** I've wanted to do.

2. Go to new, unique venues to meet other women. Maybe I've been scared of working on day game or legitimate game and that's why I've been using that excuse to only go game drunk slores, and if that's the case maybe I'm just making my own problem.

I feel like there might be something else but I don't like waiting around anymore to find **** out, so I guess I'll have to let you guys know what happens in the future. I usually only stop by this site so i'll probably check up on this thread a few more times before I'm gone for another year or two lol.
 
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