I sit by this cute girl in math and talk. I walk and talk with her while walking to her dorm, and her friend comes to **** block. She then introduces me as her friend <insert my name>. WTF, I thought friendzoned happened after period of not escalating.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I keep getting friendzoned at the very start
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
we all start as friends little johnny. why havent you kissed her yet? you waiting for the right moment? if the first man waited for the right moment to kiss the first woman there would be no humanity.
what else was she suppose to say? dont be a pvssy and start stressing over labels. either make a move or shut up.
what else was she suppose to say? dont be a pvssy and start stressing over labels. either make a move or shut up.
Mantis Toboggan
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So, have you been officially labeled a troll yet or what?
I mean, there's the possibility that you're such a social retard that you've never seen/heard anyone introduced as "my friend" before. But the possibility is so mind-blowingly small, that I gotta believe you're just a bored kid trolling.
Look, a girl might have f**ked me last night. She'll still introduce me as "her friend" to other people. Because what else is she gonna say? It's how people talk. "Here's my friend Mikey." "This is my friend Kate."
There goes my troll feeding for the day. That should hold you over...
I mean, there's the possibility that you're such a social retard that you've never seen/heard anyone introduced as "my friend" before. But the possibility is so mind-blowingly small, that I gotta believe you're just a bored kid trolling.
Look, a girl might have f**ked me last night. She'll still introduce me as "her friend" to other people. Because what else is she gonna say? It's how people talk. "Here's my friend Mikey." "This is my friend Kate."
There goes my troll feeding for the day. That should hold you over...
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Solomon
Master Don Juan
If your not a troll JP post a pic of proof of yourself, if you want you can pm it to me cause right now no one believes you brahJPlaya said:
EvilAgenda
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Lol, how else would she introduce you?
Hi, this is the guy I'm totally into?
She could have left you forgotten and gone off talking to her friends. Instead, she introduced you to them; that's a good thing.
YOU GUYS ARE ALL WRONG!!! JPLAYA IS RIGHT....HOW CAN YOU BE SO BLIND?!!?
Any girl that you JUST MET that ACTUALLY LIKES YOU, will say "Hey, this is Jplaya, the man I'd love to marry. I'm using man loosely of course."
Also, was her friend trying to c0ck block you or was she trying to talk to her friend?
Any girl that you JUST MET that ACTUALLY LIKES YOU, will say "Hey, this is Jplaya, the man I'd love to marry. I'm using man loosely of course."
Also, was her friend trying to c0ck block you or was she trying to talk to her friend?
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Why not?JPlaya said:
If you pay a prostitute for a session, you get straight down to business. You don't sit there talking to her for an hour.
Who says you have to kiss her? All you have to do is make her known that you like the look of her. Flirt with her, compliment her on something she is wearing. After some small talk suggest going for a coffee and pull your phone out to take her number. She might reject you, but who cares? At least you didn't sit there like a chump talking to her about blue waffle. Oh, but wait! You did just that didn't you?
It's ok to make mistakes, just make sure you learn from them, so that next time things go more smoothly.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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You mock me, but complimenting a girl on say something she is wearing scores you more points then sitting there and coming out with "you're really beautiful". Loads of men say that to a woman, they hear it so many times it's boring to them. If you say, I like your dress or whatever, it surprises them because not many men really take notice of that stuff, so already it sets you apart from all the other men and that's what you want to aim for. You want to be different from every other man, you want to stand out.JPlaya said:
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Better question: Why wouldn't you kiss a girl you've only known for an hour.JPlaya said:
I think it's because you're afraid you haven't built enough attraction yet. When meeting a girl, if you simply know that you can kiss her within an hour of meeting her, your demeanor will change, you won't have to try as hard, and that my friend, is what we call a self-fullfilling prophecy.
Just be sure you isolate her before you do it, and be completely confident and non outcome dependent.
HariPoter13
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Hahahaha. Thanks man, I had a really good laugh.Mantis Toboggan said:
Try to close on all of your cold approaches if you don't want to get friendzoned or become passive yourself. I had so many cold approaches when I was at college last spring semester, but I rarely closed out of fear of rejection personally and socially(Now I recognize that sticking point). And I feel like I'm starting from scratch going direct on women and going for a close after a minute of convo lol.