"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I just got played like a ****ing fiddle...

ThatGuyOverThere

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So I met this girl a couple weeks ago, and we could only talk for five minutes before she had to leave, but I got her number and asked her if she wanted to go to dinner the upcoming wednesday - she agreed. We went to dinner last week, and we really hit it off - we stayed in the dining hall and talked for over two and a half hours. The flirting was there, and I was making her laugh a lot, I was feeling good. We then both had a lot of work to do so she left but we ended up texting a lot over the next few days until we could get together again.

It was difficult because of finals week and because she goes to the college across the street, which is a 30 minute walk away in the freezing cold. But we hung out again and I thought it went well, we had lunch and hung out in her room until I had to go to work. I couldn't really make a move in her room because her friend came in to ask about a final and ended up staying most of the time, I was a little ticked off but whatever, next time, right? Well, she's done with finals but is leaving tomorrow and I have a final tomorrow morning so we planned on having a little "finals over", celebration party just-the-two-of-us in my room tomorrow before we left for break. I'm feeling really good now, this is where I can make my move.

Well I get a text at 1:45 am telling me she can't make it tomorrow because her long-distance boyfriend is coming home earlier than expected and she's leaving earlier to meet him. What... the... ****. I'm pissed, she just played me and led me on and I took the bait. Son of a *****. Yes, I know a boyfriend doesn't mean a death knell but this girl is confusing the **** out of me. She visited her boyfriend last weekend downstate (she told me it was her friend, I now know it was the boyfriend), but she texted me that night saying she regretted going, was bored, and was wondering what I was up to. I don't know what my plan of action should be here - should I cut my losses and move on or stay in the game and see what happens?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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rocksoff

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It sound's like you still have a chance man...I think she might be giving you a Shiit Test and youre failing it horribly...TRY THIS just tell her that youre actually relieved she has a boyfriend and LJBF her aassss , but tell her you still want to hang out because shes seems like a nice girl....If you pull this off right I think youll be fvcking her brains out sooner then you think
 

ThatGuyOverThere

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rocksoff said:
It sound's like you still have a chance man...I think she might giving you a Shiit Test and youre failing it horribly...TRY THIS just tell her that youre actually relieved she has a boyfriend and LJBF her aassss , but tell her you still want to hang out because shes seems like a nice girl....If you pull this off right I think youll be fvcking her brains out sooner then you think
What **** Test? Are you suggesting the boyfriend isn't real? I checked her facebook and he's very real, though it took a little digging because she doesn't have "in a relationship" on her profile. She's a freshman in college so I'm thinking she's just going through the mistake all freshmen make when they bring a long-distance bf or gf into college with them, I've seen so many of these relationships crash and burn. But I'm still a little wary of this girl now, it's going to be kinda of a big commitment to even just still keep in contact with her, so I'm just weighing whether the payoff is going to be worth it at this point.
 

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Look man..I personally don't fvck with girls who have boyfriends and I don't judge those who do..but these are the facts of your situation:

*Women will fvck any guy who gives them no reason not to fvck them.
*Girls that are extremely tied to their boyfriend do not entertain other males past light flirting. They definitely do not give out their phone numbers and do not set up "end of finals" parties.
*Just because she's flaking on you to go hang out with her boyfriend, doesn't mean she doesn't want to fvck you.

Look buddy...you're still in the game, but how you ACT from this point forward is crucial. If her having a boyfriend and her "leading you on" (something I'd say is bullshlt because it sounds like she wants your penls anyways) is going to make you pissed off and grumpy -- you mind as well write this baby off. However, if you can overcome your anger and just let things take their course (meaning she may or may not hook up with you, either way things are cool..whatever) she will become more attracted to you and once her boyfriend leaves again you're prime for closing.

Now.. with all this in mind.. if you do want to close her, the next time you get her alone you have to make a fvcking move. Just trust that she's into you and go for it. If she rejects you..don't let down. Be a little persistent. If she's adamently disgusted that you're trying to kiss her that's one thing, but if she's lightly rejecting you because "she has a boyfriend" that's no reason to stop pushing it. Essentially be persistent, she wants you, it'll happen. And again, don't let sh*t bother you. If you don't fvck her..oh well, if you do great. Either way though, don't let your emotions get the best of you here -- you have absolutely nothing to gain from that (in fact you'll lose hands down so just don't go that route).
Yeah I'm not that worried about losing my cool, I'm just a little ticked off right now because of the boyfriend roadblock that suddenly showed up, but I'll get over it. I'm still getting good vibes from her, but I'm not sure I want to be a homewrecker just yet. If she's willing to ditch her boyfriend for me and cheat, who says she won't do the same to me in the future? I'll just play it cool for now and look for an opening. But if I get her alone again, I probably won't be able to resist making a move.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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rocksoff

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ThatGuyOverThere said:
What **** Test? Are you suggesting the boyfriend isn't real? I checked her facebook and he's very real, though it took a little digging because she doesn't have "in a relationship" on her profile. She's a freshman in college so I'm thinking she's just going through the mistake all freshmen make when they bring a long-distance bf or gf into college with them, I've seen so many of these relationships crash and burn. But I'm still a little wary of this girl now, it's going to be kinda of a big commitment to even just still keep in contact with her, so I'm just weighing whether the payoff is going to be worth it at this point.
Just stop being such a pvssy and go get your tip wet......Who gives a fvck if she has a boyfriend, look up all the threads on this site about "GF just cheated" "LTR over after GF cheats" blah blah blah GUESS WHAT youll meet ALOT of hot girls with boyfriends and GUESS WHAT you can still **** the **** out of em
 

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ThatGuyOverThere said:
So I met this girl a couple weeks ago, and we could only talk for five minutes before she had to leave, but I got her number and asked her if she wanted to go to dinner the upcoming wednesday - she agreed. We went to dinner last week, and we really hit it off - we stayed in the dining hall and talked for over two and a half hours. The flirting was there, and I was making her laugh a lot, I was feeling good. We then both had a lot of work to do so she left but we ended up texting a lot over the next few days until we could get together again.

It was difficult because of finals week and because she goes to the college across the street, which is a 30 minute walk away in the freezing cold. But we hung out again and I thought it went well, we had lunch and hung out in her room until I had to go to work. I couldn't really make a move in her room because her friend came in to ask about a final and ended up staying most of the time, I was a little ticked off but whatever, next time, right? Well, she's done with finals but is leaving tomorrow and I have a final tomorrow morning so we planned on having a little "finals over", celebration party just-the-two-of-us in my room tomorrow before we left for break. I'm feeling really good now, this is where I can make my move.

Well I get a text at 1:45 am telling me she can't make it tomorrow because her long-distance boyfriend is coming home earlier than expected and she's leaving earlier to meet him. What... the... ****. I'm pissed, she just played me and led me on and I took the bait. Son of a *****. Yes, I know a boyfriend doesn't mean a death knell but this girl is confusing the **** out of me. She visited her boyfriend last weekend downstate (she told me it was her friend, I now know it was the boyfriend), but she texted me that night saying she regretted going, was bored, and was wondering what I was up to. I don't know what my plan of action should be here - should I cut my losses and move on or stay in the game and see what happens?
Okay I see a few things here. First, why are you texting back and forth in between dates? Don't do it. You're (hopefully) busy with other stuff. Second, it sounds like you're trying really hard. A lot of what you say shows that you believe that she is better than you. You may have yourself convinced that you don't, but you do. Stop it. Quit trying to read a girl and just have some fun. Also, forget about this one. She's a lost cause.
 

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Just f.vck her man. Sometimes morally repulsing yourself isn't suck a bad deal. She's using you for sex. Don't you feel so dirty? :)
 

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It seems that you were making yourself way too aivailable. I mean talked for 2 hours AFTER dinner? texting non stop everyday? I'm not surprised she chose to be with her bf
 

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The mistake you made was treating a ho like a good girl.. you took her out to eat and talked too damn much and all that crap.. damnit she is a college slut they are tuned off by "getting to know you" they want random shadowy males to mate with then dissapear.... you bring her to your room drinks and smokes optional put a boring movie on and make your moves , its that simple she does it all the time.. when you try to date these hos they get turned off and play you like you got played..

Dont contact her anymore until she contacts you (which she will not do).. next time just keep it simple and dont act like you like her too much there is no need to waist time flirting just go for the kill...

OMG and she is an 18 year old freshman..lolololololol you should have Fed her weeks ago.. cause she has Fed many dudes while you were courting her...lol
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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DonGorgon

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rocksoff said:
Just stop being such a pvssy and go get your tip wet......Who gives a fvck if she has a boyfriend, look up all the threads on this site about "GF just cheated" "LTR over after GF cheats" blah blah blah GUESS WHAT youll meet ALOT of hot girls with boyfriends and GUESS WHAT you can still **** the **** out of em

lol.. you sound just like me..hahaha the truth the pure painful truth..lol
 

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Real talk, this thang is not a game that you formulate strategies and theories and hypothesis about know wat im talkin bout. Just be you man, stop trying to do otherwise. Go wit ya gut kno wat im sayin cause theres some dudes out there that go so hard and try to pluck everything and when you do that you give the P power over you. This whole site in fact is dedicated to people that done gave that P power over them! It's nothing man, just get it. Now what you need to do is have these women confused and trying to link up wit u and tryna get sex from you know wat i'm talkin bout. Thats some whole notha level ness tho. Don't let that thang have so much power over you and ya actions cause it wouldn't matter if you slayed 1000s of chicks you'd still be a square and not a master. Think about it, how could you say your a master of something when your at the mercy of it, seems to me like that thing is mastering you, real talk.
 
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