"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell

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Has anyone read this book by Tucker Max.

It's a compilation of the recorded memoirs of Tucker Max, a former law student from Duke who spent the majority of his 20s drinking, hooking up with random chicks and basically acting like an idiot. It probably is worth reading for guys who frequent these message boards because Tucker claims to have slept with over 200 women (And I believe him).

Just finished it the other day, and I've got a couple of things I wanted to discuss.

First and foremost, I thought the book was good and funny, but I wasn't shocked very much by many of the stories. It just reminded me of the conversations me and my friends from college have when we sit around and reminisce. Don't get me wrong - the stories were hilarious, but very seldom did he talk about something I haven't experienced personally or watched one of my friends experience.

Also was trying to figure out, is Tucker a natural or did he learn how to get women to be attracted to him. It seems to me that he is more of a natural than anything, but he does talk about some relationships and other experiences that made him see the error of his ways.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Greatest piece of literature...ever! Any guy worth his salt (and especially those who aren't) should read this book. If you read one book before you die...this is the one imo.

Tucker is more or less a natural from what I can tell. He makes lots of references to DJ techniques but uses none of the lingo which makes me think he came up with it/learned it all on his own.
 

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Is 200 women really a lot? I mean for a guy that's good enough to be writing a book about it. I mean hell, Wilt Chamberlain claimed 20,000.
 

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I think Tucker said he was good, (got laid in highschool) but also had huge flaws, like being very desperate for pvssy. He said he had to work really hard, practice often, and get rejected a lot.
 

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speakeasy said:
Is 200 women really a lot? I mean for a guy that's good enough to be writing a book about it. I mean hell, Wilt Chamberlain claimed 20,000.
I've heard that claim too, but do the math. If you had a different girl every single day of a year=365. 20,000/365=55years. This seems totally implossible getting at least one different girl every day for that length of time into that old of age. I serious doubt if anyone has sex 20,000 times in a lifetime, let alone with 20,000 different women. This claim seems way over-inflated. I would bet even prostitutes, porn stars and rocks stars, etc only get to the high 100's, to very low thousands mostly.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ketostix said:
I've heard that claim too, but do the math. If you had a different girl every single day of a year=365. 20,000/365=55years. This seems totally implossible getting at least one different girl every day for that length of time into that old of age.
You are assuming he had all one-offs..What if every night was orgy night?
 

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I don't know about you guys, but when drinking is involved, hooking up is no problem. No skill involved. They just jump you.
 

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If Tucker got into Duke law, then he was a very intelligent guy.

I can also tell you, and my GFs from law school have all agreed, that law school guys are hopeless with women. Imagine combining your math, science, chess, and quiz bowl teams from high school all under the same roof. So fwiw, Tucker did well to excel as a law student.
 

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Bvbidd said:
I don't know about you guys, but when drinking is involved, hooking up is no problem. No skill involved. They just jump you.
esecially in high school. its really just like if your willing to go in for the kiss youve already won
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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if your willing to go in for the kiss youve already won

dude, I'm 31 and it still works that way :)

And there are guys here who are 50, and I bet it is still the same for them. I am learning, as I get older and have talked to more women, that most guys will just never initiate with a girl; they're too scared.
 

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goldenrocker91 said:
esecially in high school. its really just like if your willing to go in for the kiss youve already won
Well, I'm 19 so it's still like that. I kinda feel sorry for them. :down:
 

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Bvbbid said:
Well, I'm 19 so it's still like that. I kinda feel sorry for them.
I'm 19 too, and I get rejected all the time even with alcohol involved... Then again, my face isn't exactly eye candy.

It takes blood, sweat and tears for me to land a catch, even at my age.

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To the OP: the book is pretty cool, but I felt cheated after buying it... why, you ask? Because the book is just a paperback copy of his website... All the same articles, etc. I was expecting new material, but no.

All that aside; fun read.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
most guys will just never initiate with a girl; they're too scared.
It doesn't help that we can get charged for sexual harassment, or seen as a creep by all her friends, if we're wrong.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
If Tucker got into Duke law, then he was a very intelligent guy.

I can also tell you, and my GFs from law school have all agreed, that law school guys are hopeless with women. Imagine combining your math, science, chess, and quiz bowl teams from high school all under the same roof. So fwiw, Tucker did well to excel as a law student.
Yeah you're right here completely.

I read in an interview with him that he got a lot of chicks in college by heading over to Chapel Hill (UNC) and took advantage of the ratio (like 65 percent chicks, 35 percent guys). He said of those guys all of them acted like you described - nerdy and really bad with women.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Tucker is a fan of the Game. He had it as a book review on his site at one point which is where I heard of him.

He is a natural of sorts. His book actually kind of disgusted me though.

I mean I'm a party guy and all but I guess I dont always like to tell all. I couldn't imagine writing a book about all the girls I've banged. I imagine one day he might regret this book.
 
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