"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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chance

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okay, i have a girl. she's sweet and all that. but the thing that bothers me the most is she always waits for me to do something. i know that's a man thing but i'm talking about almost everything. example;

this is online, we talk online too.

her: brb
me: okay

when she gets back she never says she's back. like she's either waiting for me to message her or she'll wait for a while like almost 30 minutes then message me, but not saying she's back. i don't know what. she's done it a few times. also with kissing, hugging. not once has she initiated the move. however, she does like it when i kiss her and sometimes doesn't want me to stop. same for hugging. could be she's still a bit shy. cause she's a virgin.

any ideas? we've only been dating about three weeks now. but known each other for about 2 months.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Eulogy

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Girls rarely do any kind of initiating. My point? Get used to it. Unfortunatly, nature has us programmed so you have to do 90% of the work to get/keep the prize.
 

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I know a chick who was the exact same: she HARDLY initiated anything, but will be EXCITED WHEN YOU DO. So what i did with the chick was TELL her to make her move ("Give me a kiss on the cheek, i won't bite. But keep those lips on the cheeks...") and when she kissed me, i smiled and said "Seeing as you behaved yourself and kept those lips on my cheek, i will allow you to give me a kiss whenever we see each other."

It worked, she gives me a kiss every morning and is delighted to do so :) Just be ****y and funny, and it'll solve any problem you have...
 

themanwithnoname

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Originally posted by Eulogy
Girls rarely do any kind of initiating. My point? Get used to it. Unfortunatly, nature has us programmed so you have to do 90% of the work to get/keep the prize.
true, but a man initiates through action, a woman initiates through talk, she should be the one calling, not him, the guy does all the moves in the beginning.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Eulogy

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Originally posted by themanwithnoname
true, but a man initiates through action, a woman initiates through talk, she should be the one calling, not him, the guy does all the moves in the beginning.
Unhappy? Then ditch the bitch. (Rhymes never lie. :D)
 

Gangster Of Love

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Originally posted by chance
okay, i have a girl. she's sweet and all that. but the thing that bothers me the most is she always waits for me to do something. i know that's a man thing but i'm talking about almost everything. example;

this is online, we talk online too.

her: brb
me: okay

when she gets back she never says she's back. like she's either waiting for me to message her or she'll wait for a while like almost 30 minutes then message me, but not saying she's back. i don't know what. she's done it a few times. also with kissing, hugging. not once has she initiated the move. however, she does like it when i kiss her and sometimes doesn't want me to stop. same for hugging. could be she's still a bit shy. cause she's a virgin.

any ideas? we've only been dating about three weeks now. but known each other for about 2 months.
Ooooooh, you poor dear. Get used to it. Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, any rock star, etc. have girls making the moves. Most of us have to keep moving the seduction at all times.

Would you preffer the alternative? To be a chick so you don't have to make the moves? Stop being a girly man!

Stop it with the online chat thing. Start initiating the kissing and be the one who stops first, always. Start making her reach and chase you the prize.
 

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Glad to hear that most men have to make the moves. I too have noticed this and wondered how it fitted in with not beind needy or appearing desperate.

I like the trick of tell her to do it...!

-Charlie
 

Plain & Simple

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Sh1t i thought i was the only one in this situation, although my situation is not as bad, I have to make all the moves when it comes to, going to have sex, or going out(sometimes) thats about it, the rest is all both of us.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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