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I have to call a girl on the phone overseas.. need help what to talk about

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Here's the story its a bit interesting.

I am from a small country in Europe but I've lived in America almost all my life so I am Americanized but I know my language perfectly.

I was on vacation in my country about 3 weeks ago. One of my father's friends introduced me to a 19 year old girl there that is exceptionally pretty. When he introduced me to her we talked a bit but the conversation was pretty dry I am not good at conversation/rapport etc. So eventually she agreed to go out with me that night. So what happened is the night came and then I get a call from my father's friend saying that she wasn't able to go out that night due to her family having guests over. Unfortunately that was my last day of the stay so I left to America. But what happens is my father's friend calls me again and says that she told him to give me her number. So now I have her number.

Now the problem is 3 weeks have passed and I haven't called her due mainly because I really hate phone convos because I have a lot of dead air. My goals is to occasional contact this girl and make friends over the phone so I can come back and do more things with her on the personal level.

So what interesting things can we make a conversation about over the phone? She doesnt have much of an educational future she works at a bakery in my small town so I do want to talk too much about her about school.

If i can make a little list or guideline of what topics to open up in case i get stuck in dead air would be great. Again, girls from my country are interested in America so they won't mind if i talk about American things with them.

Thanks in advance to all
 

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Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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just talk about life, little things.. what she's up to... etc... try to keep the focus on her and let her do the talking... ;)
 
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sav said:
just talk about life, little things.. what she's up to... etc... try to keep the focus on her and let her do the talking... ;)
Thanks sav for the response but this is really what I always read on seduction guides.. which is really vague!

Just some simple details and guidelines of something interesting we can talk about would be great.
 

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Uh why are you even bothering? She is over seas. Long distance relationships don't work and you haven't even dated her yet.

You have nothing to gain but a phone bill.
 

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Maxtro said:
Uh why are you even bothering? She is over seas. Long distance relationships don't work and you haven't even dated her yet.

You have nothing to gain but a phone bill.
i dont need a relationship immediately. I just want her to get to know me over the phone so when I go there we can go out and I can take it to the next level. I have one huge advantage for her and that is I am a US citizen. This small European country is very poor and she really has no financial future there. She may be very interested in me because I can eventually take her in the US and get her out of that economic hole.
 

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So you're trying to take her from your country to America?
Hey, if shes interested, go ahead. Don't expect definite success though, so don't just put blind effort into it.
When talking on the phone, be sure to have a lot of emotion because it usually makes the conversation more interesting. Ask her about herself and make her laugh and have a good time talking to you.
After you've become comfortable talking to her and her to you, invite her to live with you in America... if shes interested, she might just go, but if she isn't, oh well.. cause there are plenty of girls who you can date in your own area.
 
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Grand Wizzard Alamar said:
So you're trying to take her from your country to America?
Hey, if shes interested, go ahead. Don't expect definite success though, so don't just put blind effort into it.
When talking on the phone, be sure to have a lot of emotion because it usually makes the conversation more interesting. Ask her about herself and make her laugh and have a good time talking to you.
After you've become comfortable talking to her and her to you, invite her to live with you in America... if shes interested, she might just go, but if she isn't, oh well.. cause there are plenty of girls who you can date in your own area.
Thank you Wizzard. The only way she can come to America is i believe to marry her officially. Im only 21 so I dont plan to do that soon lol. But id love to breed with her she is very pretty although i dont really know her well character-wise.

Also you mention that there are plenty of girls in my area. Yes, there are. But, im very unsuccessful with them. I dont have an upper hand like i do in my country (Where to them, i am wealthy and they see me as an opportunity for another life) but here, I am nothing and no one. I dont drive bimmers and benzes and dress like a rapper.

This is why im very interested in my country's women because then again, I see them as a part of me and my identity and my destiny as well. But it does nt hurt to maybe be successful here in the US and screw some American girls for experience. :)
 

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talk about emotions. all people, whether a girl working in a bakery or a PhD student in philosophy have the same emotions. so here's what you do.

You: So how is everything going over there?
Her: Fine. Same old same old.
You: Yeah, I know what you mean. I've been doing [whatever it is you do] and it gets kinda old sometimes. That why I like to make sure I go to a bar [or whatever you do to relax] every once in a while. How about you, what do you like to do to relax?
Her: Oh, I like to paint my pet rocks like rainbows.
You: Really? What's that like for you?
Her: Oh, I like to think of them as my friends that I don't get to see very often.
You: I like how important your friends are to you, even the ones far away. I hope I have the best rock for myself.
Her: {laughs}

Do you see? Talk about the emotional content behind subjects, because emotions are the same person to person, no matter where they live. The two most important questions are "How does that feel?" and "What is that like?"

And if you get stuck, just talk about yourself. Talk about what you did that day, and be sure to talk about the emotions you've felt.

Believe me, this is the fastest way to a girls' heart.
 

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Event3horizon said:
but here, I am nothing and no one. I dont drive bimmers and benzes and dress like a rapper.
you don't have to pose as someone out of popular culture just to be somebody. In fact, if you stray from yourself, you are no longer yourself.

Believe me man, there are plenty of girls that you can score with. You've gotta be somebody though, and have many things that you're proud of about yourself. Then all you need to do is be open and talk with the ladies, get in their comfort zone and show them that you like them, while showing that you can get other girls if she doesn't choose to like you back.
It's a lot to do with experimenting.

I hope you don't plan on getting married so soon though. You should date lots of girls before you decide to get married, cause you need an idea of who's really out there and who would be best for you.
Looks are one thing, but if you find the faults of a SHB, whatever they are, you'll realize that you don't want a model hot wife just for the looks.

You should find a hot one who is a lot of fun and you're happy with both ways :p
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

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