"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I have horrible phone game.

ElStud

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Okay so it's after school and me and my buddy are talking and he calls up this one girl we met at prom so I could talk to her. So blah blah, he talks to her, I talk to her and for a while she seems confused, until I tell her I'm the guys friend. Okay so after that, I asked "So how you been since prom?" and she's like "I've been great!". Then after that I tell her about this carnival and asks if she could come and she says she'll think about it. After that REALLY awkward silence and I just give the phone back to my friend. Basically, my phone game sucks. How can I improve upon it?
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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are you experienced with phone game? what i mean by this is, does your phone game suck even though you call alot of girls, or does it suck because this is one of your first times?

Just keep in mind, you will suck in ALL ASPECTS of dating until you practice practice practice!!

perfect example is, you have perfected Approach Anxiety (ive been reading your FR's), you got rid of approach anxiety because you practiced like crazy at it.........id say about 1.5 years ago, you had tons of AA, now you dont - practice accomplished that

well guess what? if u want to be good at kissing girls, at sex, at phone game, at fun dates, then guess what you need? thats right, PRACTICE

so, expect to **** up the first few times with phone game, but that shouldnt matter since you can get alot of #s since your approach anxiety is non-existant

hope that helps
 

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Do you have a cell phone?

I didnt have a cell phone about a year ago and before that i was horrible on the phone. I couldnt hold a conversation because there wasnt that face to face interaction and I accually had trouble hearing and understanding people on the phone just from that lack of talking on the phone.

My advice would be to just talk on the phone more with anyone you can get ahold of, guys or girls. You will get better quickly.

I had this close girl friend and i had her start calling me every night just to talk for a while. Usually she would end up talking my ear off but I didnt care because I got the practice i needed to be confortable on the phone.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Phone game is best learnt by example. ALSO, before getting on the phone, you must be in the proper frame of mind.

YOU MUST BE IN THE PRIZE FRAME. You must be thinking "I'm the prize, she must win me". If you are not in this frame, DO NOT PICK UP THE PHONE, DONT ANSWER HER CALL, WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE IN THE FRAME.

Here is an example from today. I call this girl to set up a date and get her voice-mail. I leave this message.

Me Leaving Message: Hey, it's that guy you've been stalking and want to see so badly. You must be hiding from the FBI currently so i'll give you a call another time and maybe you'll be out of hiding by then.

10 minutes later she calls me.

Me: Hello
Her: Hey! (excited)
Me: Whose this? (keep in mind, I knew it was her)
Her: Its HB
Me: Oh you must really be a stalker. I said on the message that i'd call you, and here you are calling me already.
Her: Well, I can't stalk you tonight, I have a poker game at a friends house.
Me: I was actually calling to make sure that you DIDN'T TRY TO STALK ME TONIGHT. However, you can stalk me this Thursday, at 5oclock at the following location.
Her: Sounds good I'll see you there.
Me: Oh, and you had better win money so you have some spending cash when you get here. I only like winners.
Her: Ok i'll try!
Me: See you Thursday
Her: See you then. Bye!
 

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Erm. . . Without wanting to sound like a jackass. . ., oh to hell with it, your whole game sucks, not just the phone side.

But as always, i'm not just going to naysay, i'm here to help you, should you require it.
 

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first of all, elstud, do you need a game to talk to someone on teh phone? why ask her if she can come? She can join if she wants! Second, its absolutely fine to go into awkward silences with someone you don't know that much.... with only very close ppl, we dont tend to get teh loss of words... so flirt, tease and keep it fun, you need not share stories over the phone to keep her interested, just get the fun ball rolling, thats it and never stay on the phone too long unless she is sharing some important things about her or yourself which in PUA term, comfort phase.... and next time, when you feel the awkward silence, just say,"probably we don't have anything to say to each other at the moment, anyways, take care and miss me" and hung up. thats it. it works for me!
 

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I think you need to take some time away from the world of picking up women, and work on yourself. You have a very bad self-image. I bet every time a woman turns you down or is non-responsive, you feel terrible. It's a sad state of affairs.

Your ego is attacked when you have your self-image deflated by a woman, so you need to rework your self-image and not let woman be a deity. You should not let your desires for success with women be a part of your self-image and know that it's just fun for you. Then guess what! You won't feel deflated, and you'll become normal with women just as you are with everyone else. Get their reactions toward you out of your self-image, and you'll stop acting awkward around them.

Dude, I get turned down, flaked on, and stood up, but that's not my story. It doesn't affect me because it's not my main priority in life. It's not what's so important to me, and because of that, I have success, too. I have many successes with women because I've decided to tear down that false pedestal that I once had built up out of my reach. If a woman isn't into me, I just look at as if she has bad taste, and to me IT'S SO TRUE. There is no reason for a woman not to want me. NONE! If she doesn't, she's only doing me a favor to go find women who do enjoy me.

Women's reaction to you is not that important if you know who you are. Just talk to them without worrying about an outcome. Have fun. That's all they want is to have fun. Fun with you or without you. If they feel that you're going to be all over them, they won't be interested.

And remember, everyone gets turned down at one time or another. It's not something you should worry about. That means you are part of one of the largest clubs in the entire world. It just is...
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Really, the phone shouldn't be used for gaming at all. It's a tool for setting up a meeting with the chick. Once that's established, end of conversation. its different if she is the one calling you all the time, but outside of setting up the hook up, she should be doing the majority of the calling.
 

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positivity_injection said:
well guess what? if u want to be good at kissing girls, at sex, at phone game, at fun dates, then guess what you need? thats right, PRACTICE

so, expect to **** up the first few times
Kissing girls and sex have nothing common with phone game . Kissing an sex is direct contact . Phone game is something else .

And you dont have to fvck up for first times . You can learn and than be good at phone too .

If you can maintain conversation live , you can keep it on phone too . Tell her some stories , maybe some routines if you are routines fan (CUBE , STRAWBERRY FIELD ). Also be sexual , funny and thats it . The same way you do when you talk to her face to face , the same way you can talk on phone .

Almost same techniques , same routines . Use all of them .
 

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Blackmm said:
Really, the phone shouldn't be used for gaming at all. It's a tool for setting up a meeting with the chick. Once that's established, end of conversation. its different if she is the one calling you all the time, but outside of setting up the hook up, she should be doing the majority of the calling.

True but many females use the phone to audition you before you get to meet them so we have to know how to use it...
 

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ElStud said:
Okay so it's after school and me and my buddy are talking and he calls up this one girl we met at prom so I could talk to her. So blah blah, he talks to her, I talk to her and for a while she seems confused, until I tell her I'm the guys friend. Okay so after that, I asked "So how you been since prom?" and she's like "I've been great!". Then after that I tell her about this carnival and asks if she could come and she says she'll think about it. After that REALLY awkward silence and I just give the phone back to my friend. Basically, my phone game sucks. How can I improve upon it?
Avoid the approaching things like if you had "game" or like if you are "cool". You either are cool or you are not. Just improve on your communication skills. Do you think people really have "game"? What they have is ability to communicate a message.

A simple:

Latinoman (18 yr version)"Hi, this is ElStud. I am ____'s friend...remember me? The tall/dark dude that spilled the beer (or some other funny thing)? How you liked the prom? That's cool. Listen, I have to let you go...but wanted to tell you that there is a carnaval coming to town and some of my friends and I are going to go...how would you like to come with us? (or There is a carnaval coming to town, how would you like to go with me/us/a_group_of_friends) "

Girl: "Let me think about it"

Latinoman (18 yr version): "Sure. Here is my number, give me a call and let me know. I do have to go now...when you call me, remind me there is something I want to tell you that I noticed about you during Prom. Talk to you later! Take care."
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I edited the above dialogue.

If she replies: "Tell me now!"

She might be intrigued...she might or might not be interest...she might or might not care about what you think. There is not way of knowing.

But if she replies with just an "Okay".

Or simply says nothing.

Then she is NOT interested in you.

That little test does not determine if she is interested...it simply determine if she is NOT.
 

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ElStud said:
Okay so it's after school and me and my buddy are talking and he calls up this one girl we met at prom so I could talk to her. So blah blah, he talks to her, I talk to her and for a while she seems confused, until I tell her I'm the guys friend. Okay so after that, I asked "So how you been since prom?" and she's like "I've been great!". Then after that I tell her about this carnival and asks if she could come and she says she'll think about it. After that REALLY awkward silence and I just give the phone back to my friend. Basically, my phone game sucks. How can I improve upon it?
Practice. All there is to it. No more, no less.
 
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