first of all, thanks for the replies.. I've replied to everyone, so pardon my long reply
jay07 said:
Hit the gym and lower your standards. And get drunk for your sake so the 4's seem like 6s
I'm not fat.. I just have a little layer of fat but I think get ripped isnt a bad idea after all. both girls were 7s. the second one was a rejection because she refused to give me her # lol.
Mike32ct said:
Yes, looks matter a LOT. But to say that you can't do ANYTHING about your look is BS.
As a young fella, you more than likely have plenty of hair. Grow out you hair and get the coolest hairstyle you can. Don't go to a $10 barber. Get a good stylist*.
*Not a middle aged woman. An older lady will give you a short boring nice guy look. Go to a 20something hottie girl or very stylish guy say 30 max.
I figured that out but by looks I meant my face. surgery is not the option for me. I'm not going to do that at all lol. but I do get what you mean. I could always work out like the user above you suggested.
my $15 barber is actually a stylish guy so I think that'll work out. I'll get a haircut at the end of the week
ah yes.. I feel as if older women don't know what today's girls actually dig. it's hard for me to have a cool hairstyle bc I have really thick hair.
Peaks&Valleys said:
Looks can get a foot in the door a little easier but it can only bring you so far. Believe me on this one.
If you had choice between money and wisdom, which would you choose?
How about a choice between looks and game?
even tho I agree with you on that, but sometimes looks wont get you anywhere, like in my case. lol
I'd rather have wisdom than money.. I'm not really a materialistic kind of guy unlike most dudes out there
ediceneet12 said:
Mike32ct is right, Getting a haircut that really suits your face and makes you stand out a bit from the rest of the crowd can really help you. I assume you are 18? that's what your profile says anyways I'm close to your age.
And one of the best things I did was getting a haircut that made me appear older/masculine. Most guys are age (atleast in my school/area) have the typical Justin Bieber/skater fag haircut or just have there hair buzzed.
Stand out a bit dude! I'm sure there's a hairstyle or something that can make you more presentable.
yes I'm 18.. turning 19 soon.
ahh I see. most people in my area have the standard hairstyles.. either a jb haircut, buzzcut, spiked up hair, etc
TheCWord said:
The following guys are currently married:
-A guy with a rare skin disease that gives him all sorts of blotches on his face
-A burn victim whose face has been hideously disfigured.
-Oh, and that guy who has no freaking arms or legs.***
I'm sure you'll be jussssst fine. Especially at age 18. What are you, a drama queen? You really think all hope is lost when you just turned voting age?
Your physical features won't repulse all women. You know what will, though? Extreme self-pity.
***Can we all just take a second to acknowledge just how hot no-arms-or-legs-guy's wife is????
oh yeah I remember that burn victim. he served in the US (if I'm right) military. I saw the picture too. the bride looked rather unhappy. they've been divorced if I'm right, but that's not the point.
you gotta keep in mind that in that case, they were already together. I understand what you're trying to do here, and I appreciate it. so thanks.
haha nah dude, I'm not a drama queen at all.. but then again, I'm still a youngster and therefore more emotional than the average adult male.
I do agree that extreme self pity doesn't help but what can I do? it's the truth. I also never show it. you people are the only ones who know this lol.
anyway, thanks again. I appreciate the gesture. your words (or should I say examples?
) were more than encouraging.
ediceneet12 said:
TheCWord is also right
Guys aren't meant to be beautiful in the first place, start lifting weights/going after what it is you want out of your life. Don't worry about your looks (I went through that phase of insecurity when i was like 10) and just start turning yourself into the man that YOU want to be.
I know they're not meant to be beautiful, but it certainly does help a looooooot if they're.. especially if the girls of today are judgemental. even the fatties! :meek:
thanks dude, but I don't think it's insecurity, I'm just stating the truth after I've got at least some evidence (those 2 girls.. and even girls in general. I've read a lot about guys that just hang out somewhere alone in public and girls approach them, whereas when I sit alone they all walk past me by.
)
Juan Don said:
you're 18 still young. you will get more rejections too. i'm sure everyone does. but you know what? you're one step ahead though because you are actually approaching. some guys don't even do that! fail forward. at least you tried instead of wondering what if...like everything else you need to practice to get better at something(i.e. talking with people in general). i wish at 18 there was a site like this. info is all here for you. fitness and grooming DOES actually help.
not if I stop trying. but I do see that's not the option. maybe 7s are too high for me, idk.
well you're definitely right about that. but they do get signals from girls. I can easily tell when a person digs another person. there's this look in a girl's eye that tells you. but I've never had that look. again, I'm not being insecure, I'm just telling the truth
confuscioused said:
you're a young kid and probably will be a late bloomer. Work on yourself physically and mentally, get in good shape and you will grow into a look that fits you. If you're face isn't all that work on your body, hairstyle, personality and dress well. Believe me it works, most guys aren't much to look at anyway. You're too young to give up dude!!
thanks man! but yeah there's some other things I could work on first.. for instance, my body. I'm not fat, I'm just normal but getting muscular is apparently a really good thing lol.
my personality isnt something that needs to be changed because I'm a well liked dude in general :yes:
anyway, thanks again.
JoeMarron said:
Yeah this is complete nonsense and you're silly for believing it. How you came to this conclusion when you've only been rejected twice is beyond me. Lets say you are soul crushingly ugly. The fact that one ugly dude exists who has success with women proves that your situation isn't hopeless. Sure you're gonna have to work far harder than the average dude but giving up all hope and wallowing in self pity is for pvssies. Man up and take what you want.
it's not
complete nonsense... I pick up the signs and piece them together and it has lead me to this conclusion.. getting rejected, never getting approached and all that stuff, you know? haha
but the ugly dude that does have success with women has something that I don't have.. be it humor or money. my bet is on the latter
thanks for the encouraging words.. Ill try my best but getting rejected over and over again sucks. my friend's been rejected a lot too. he's not ugly at all, he's average but he's pretty muscled for a guy his age (19) so I don't see why that is.
Stagger Lee said:
I don't really disagree with your premise and the quote. But you have to remember it's a numbers game and even a good looking guy would essentially be rejected 90% of the time for sex if he tried with random cold approaches on attractive girls.
If you're young even if you're not very good looking, you can get a girl. It's just a matter of numbers game. When you're young the numbers game is easier to play since there are many single and attractive girls. Another thing is older women will date younger men. When I was 19-21 it was almost unheard of. An older woman then was usually no older than 23 years old lol.
So my advice is try to pick up on at least 20-30 girls before you give up all hope. And give it a couple years. Rejection sucks but two rejections is nothing.
I'm not saying do the PUA thing and cold approach every female you see and try to "game" her. Just try to say hello even to 20-30 girls and you never know you might end up with dates and a GF before you get to number 20.
I doubt the good looking guy would get rejected. by 'good looking' I mean guys who look like movie stars girls obsess over. (taylor lautner, justin bieber, etc) unless they have a ****ty personality. it's the truth.
ha right
when you speak of older women I think of women in their late 20s lol or early 30s.
so you're saying I havent done my best yet.. suggesting I should try more? man, 20-some more rejections will seriously affect my self esteem haha
thanks for your reply man. really. I appreciate it
Jair213 said:
You are young bro. Do not put your self down like that.
Did you graduate hs?
Going to college?
Hit the gym?
Other hobbys?
Go out with friends?
yeah I know. I shouldn't but I cant help but see it anyway. I dont mean to see it, but I just do
- no I didnt
- if I didnt flunk my classes I would've
- nope
- not at all
- depends on what you mean with going out with friends. if you mean night clubs, then no. if you mean just hanging out then yes
PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
approach women in your own range then. Why the sense of entitlement like the hb5s lusting after 9s and 10s lol?
ehh they were both 6.5s lol. thats not really high lol.