"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I promise, this is not another "woe is me thread".

So the idea on here is that basically, the traditional romantic notions and ideas that one follows are what makes him an afc right? So the complimenting, saying how hot they look,showing romantic feelings etc, are what we are not supposed to do right? I ask this cause it could be messing with my perception of things.

Again, I see people together,obviously,cause they are attracted to each other enough, so is the guy who has it all and has the woman/women an afc?

I mean,the idea is to be secure with yourself no matter what right?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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DonGorgon

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You can compliment her etc. but you have to have an indiffernece at the same time...

BUt the reality is that if a woman lies you it wont matter what you say.. if your trying to make her like you then you will always has problem cause you can make her like you..

Say things to make her wonder if you are for real .. if she concludes anything you are done...
 
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What you mean if she concludes anything? Meaning you got no chance with her? This is what I have had trouble figuring out,how do you go from first meetings to either dating or even just banging? Is it all about the interaction?

Or is it just too people are naturally attracted to one another enough?

I don't try to make people like me, but I have problems with loneliness,wanting to be accepted etc. I realize that you have to be careful not to be a doormat,getttingg used etc. But I just feel that they're has been something holding me back while others have been moving forward. It seems like she only likes you no matter what if you are the right guy,which in my mind, is the guy has his stuff together,both emotionally/mentally,financially,educationally etc, things I don't have, yet I see people in the same predicaments as me, and they have a girl. Or it has to be this severe social anxiety. I mean, I can't find the time or effort to go and do this, yet I want it so badly. Maybe I just don't have the right mindset. This is all mental, I know that.
 

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STOP POSTING EVERY THOUGHT YOU HAVE! Go out and learn something instead of thinking of something and posting it.
 

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Actually you can say romantic things to a woman and damn near anything complimentary.

The act of saying such things does not turn a woman off necessarily.

Its the man behind the saying of such things that depends on how a woman will react to what is said.

If you are a strong, interesting, c0cky and funny SOB that has established your worth to her through these qualities combined with a slight distancing of your emotions from her you're good to go. She will drool over you and chase after you trying to capture your heart.

If on the other hand you are a heart on your sleeve, cry in your pillow, weak male that falls in obsessive love with anything with a pretty face and you are this kind of guy that tries to say compliments and be romantic with women you will get shut down immediately.

Thats the way it works.

The weak lose while the strong win. :rock:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I am not weak,but not strong either. I can be funny,well,whats interesting? But, I am not obsessive,but a hopeless romantic I guess.
 

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you gotta love yourself before you can love somebody else. You can compliment any girl all you want, but if you reasons are to make her like you, then you'll fail. You can do and say anything you want, but only because you want to, not because you think she'll like you more for it.

Confidence is the key to everything
 
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I don't know if I love myself. My whole inner sense of things is all messed up. My mood/inner feelings tend to change very quickly on an almost daily basis.

I just don't know how to "play the game" and this has me worried for many reasons. I know you shouldn't do things just to get people to like you more. But I don't know,something feels missing.
 
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