ValleyDJing
Master Don Juan
wow...this shyt is interesting! If a hot girl starts rubbing my ****...resistence (if it was even there to begin with, not likely) is non-existent after that. 
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Why wont you follow my advice and just kiss, touch etc. the man already. Respectively, you sound like a broken record.DreamyChick said:Yeah I know that my posts suck shift. I have been working a lot so I dont have a lot of time during the week to post so I have all that time to think about the things that are driving me crazy but I am too chicken to do anything about. I am slowly building my courage though. I am a female AFC. lol
Tried to read about last night here:BlackJackal said:Why wont you follow my advice and just kiss, touch etc. the man already. Respectively, you sound like a broken record.![]()
It's not just your advice. EVERYONE who's wasted their time reading this thread has told her that.BlackJackal said:Why wont you follow my advice and just kiss, touch etc. the man already. Respectively, you sound like a broken record.![]()
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Has it really been that long? Damn, talk about oneitis.Gangster Of Love said:This the same guy you always post about? For about 4 years now?
Sun Tzu respects the wisdom of C_M_Daddy.Call_Me_Daddy said:For all you wussies who may be reading:
This is a perfect example of why chicks don't make a move. They spend all their time thinking, and NOT doing. Kind of like most of you super-AFCs/intelectuals.
She can't make a move because she is tuck in her own damn head. That's why MEN HAVE TO TAKE THE LEAD. The women, simply can't.
There is no "I was going to". You either do or you do not. And in this case you didn't.DreamyChick said:I was going to make a move last night. I really was, the timing was just about right but then as I said my mom came home and he freaked out.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Don't give a chick advice how to be a man. Its not her fault that she is in love with a guy with shrunken balls.Call_Me_Daddy said:There is no "I was going to". You either do or you do not. And in this case you didn't.
You have to show him you are interested. Because we guys cannot read minds. We can't know what you feel unless you express it. We can't know what you are thinking unless you say it.
If this guy has been pursuing you for awhile and you did nothing to show that you liked him, then he'll take it that you "don't really care" and look for someone else who does.
If you are interested in being with him, then SHOW IT SOMEHOW.
DJDamage said:Don't give a chick advice how to be a man. Its not her fault that she is in love with a guy with shrunken balls.
Men do not need to read minds, therefore every time we make a move on a chick there is a risk of rejection. Its part of being a man and sex is the reward for going through the approach due to the risk. Sissy boys are afraid of rejection, afraid of the approach and therefore barley get sex if any.
Its either this fool is playing mind games with her or he is too chicken sh1t to make a move.
The best advice is if he ain't bringing it, go find someone else who does. What is next?? you are going to pull your panties to the side, expose your pvssy and wait there while he says something C&F??? pffff go get a real man who won't say anything but will just stick it in there.
Again.DreamyChick said:He knows I have feelings for him that go beyond friendship. He has always told me that he has never wanted it to go past friendship because he wasn't attracted to me. So out of respect for him I have kept our encounters friendly. I don't try to touch him or anything that I feel may make him uncomfortable. However, I have gotten hung up and confused by his actions. But this summer he decided that he wanted to hang out more. Then I asked for a massage and one night he unhooked my bra and took off my shirt but nothing else happened after that because I was too nervous.
Then one night I spent the night and he was cuddly, but he says he doesn't remember and that he wasn't trying to lead me on into thinking he wanted more. Please stop placing all of the responsibiltity on me. He's known what I want for a long time. He's just not interested or just simply interested in making me want him for a fun pass the time game. After he left I called to ask why he left the way he did and he just kept repeating that he was trying to maintain friendship boundaries. I don't know if he said that because I stressed that we needed some if he wasn't interested in taking things to the next level or if he's trying to do it for himself. He is playing with my head if anything not the other way around guys. I am not trying to make excuses hes just hot and cold. One minute he wants to know personal details about me and in the next minute he tells me it grosses him out when I decide to share.
I honestly getting worn down from all of this. I don't know how he wants me to behave toward him. If I dont try to touch him or am comfortable with him hugging me he tells me that I need to relax. Then the next time I see him he acts completely different. I admit maybe he's frusterated by my saying that I can't handle a hug but right now I can't because it makes me desire more from him.
You and that man are both nuts. But since we're talking to you and not him, the best I can tell you is to touch his p enis. Cause he's too chicken **** to do anything.DreamyChick said:He knows I have feelings for him that go beyond friendship. He has always told me that he has never wanted it to go past friendship because he wasn't attracted to me. So out of respect for him I have kept our encounters friendly. I don't try to touch him or anything that I feel may make him uncomfortable. However, I have gotten hung up and confused by his actions. But this summer he decided that he wanted to hang out more. Then I asked for a massage and one night he unhooked my bra and took off my shirt but nothing else happened after that because I was too nervous.
Then one night I spent the night and he was cuddly, but he says he doesn't remember and that he wasn't trying to lead me on into thinking he wanted more. Please stop placing all of the responsibiltity on me. He's known what I want for a long time. He's just not interested or just simply interested in making me want him for a fun pass the time game. After he left I called to ask why he left the way he did and he just kept repeating that he was trying to maintain friendship boundaries. I don't know if he said that because I stressed that we needed some if he wasn't interested in taking things to the next level or if he's trying to do it for himself. He is playing with my head if anything not the other way around guys. I am not trying to make excuses hes just hot and cold. One minute he wants to know personal details about me and in the next minute he tells me it grosses him out when I decide to share.
I honestly getting worn down from all of this. I don't know how he wants me to behave toward him. If I dont try to touch him or am comfortable with him hugging me he tells me that I need to relax. Then the next time I see him he acts completely different. I admit maybe he's frusterated by my saying that I can't handle a hug but right now I can't because it makes me desire more from him.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.