I have a general rant...

[backbreaker]

Okay, where are all the smart, GEORGOUS girls? Not cute, but very attractive. You can't find them anwhere. The woman I work with are not very bright, even though one is a knockout and a couple are better than average, I know alot of woman my age (20) that are in college and are as dumb as a doornob and have no sense whatsoever.

I think this is really a crisis.

This one girl I know is a knockout, and she isn't dumb, but she is the laziest SOB I have ever meet in my life. I asked her how she plans to get by later in life, you know, without giving *******s to your manager for a raise, and she pretty much said by her looks.

This is the world we have come to.

This is the very reason I don't "chase" woman.

Why argue with someone who has no sense.

Perfect example. This older woman I know, who is married keeps telling me that if she wasn't married she would date me. We are good friends and she pratically begged me to date her younger cousin, who is 3 years older than me. I have seen her before, she is around a 7-8 depending on what you like, so I said why not, I might even like her.

So around 2 weeks ago, around a week after I got her phone number, I decided I would give her a call and schedule a meeting and this woman gave her cousin the wrong phone number to give to me! I just laughed and said thank god I didn't waste my time with that one.


I don't know if it is where i live, or is it like that everywhere else, but it sucks. No smart-beautiful woman. You are FORCED to cheat on woman to get what you want, because you can't find both in the same person.

anyway, that's it, but I just had to get that off my chest.

 

[Tails]

yeah no sh|t, i can't find any decent girls down where i live. only stupid dumb wh0res who won't fuk off. starting to think maybe i should just fuk them and forget about finding nice girls. cause i haven't found one yet.

 

[golf299]

one of my afc friends had a knockout gf. she was hot and she knew it. unfortunately, she didn't know that she was also very dumb.

she tried to honestly convince me that smoking pot makes you a better, safer driver....nuff said.

i have yet to find a girl that is extremely attractive and bright. they may not exist.

 

[backbreaker]

I seriously can only think of one celeberity that is sortof both, and honeslty she really isn't that hot, her intelligence is what makes her sexy to me.

But you are right, I honestly think it's a lost cause.

I honeslty think it's our fault. Most of these guys here will worship anything slim and cute, so the woman don' thave to better themselves, because they know they can get buy on their looks.

 

[blienk]

This is something I've thought about a lot lately. I'm just about finishing my freshman year of college. I've hooked up with plenty of girls this year, but that's all they're good for. I've met one - ONE SINGLE GIRL - who I would really be interested in a LTR with, and she wasn't even a student here, just a visiting highschool senior.

My college is quite selective, so all the girls here are somewhat intelligent, which is nice. Unfortunately, most of them aren't even remotely attractive. There are also a lot of borderline girls who could make up for it with a good personality, but are either completely boring or unbearably annoying. The small selection of truly hot girls are so sought after that they either become dirty sluts or total cokkteases.

I know there are better girls out there, and as long as I keep approaching I'm sure I'll find one. I'm just tired of going through the same bull**** routine over and over for girls that I have no genuine interest in. At first it's fun, then you just want something more.

 

[California Love]

Good looking guys

still need to work hard and earn good money to support a family.


Good looking girls

on the other hand, have a huge variety of men to choose from, whom they can depend on for the rest of their lives.


Therefore, hot women tend to not work as hard. They do not need to exceed expectations because they can get what they need purely through looks.

A hot dude on the other hand, is fcking useless if he doesnt have some smarts, unless he wants to become a model. Men need traits other than looks to succeed in life.

 

[Ol'BlueEyes]

I think a big part of it has to do with the lack of good role models for girls today and what the media is teaching them.
Who do girls have to look up to? Britney Spears? Jessica Simpson? J-lo? Paris Hilton? Sure they're hot, but marginally talented at best. It's a case of pop culture embracing style over substance. Girls see Paris and Pammy make porn flicks and the media attention they get.
All my kingdom for a 20-ish HB8 who doesn't smoke or watch MTV.

 

[squirrels]

Hahah so true, my friend and I were just talking about this.

We live in the "Inter-porn generation." Easily accessible porn has spoiled us all. Not just the guys, but the girls. It's got them thinking that the "way to be" is to go to clubs and dance and get drunk and show their t!tt!3s and make out with other girls. And the popular "role models" certainly don't decry that kind of behavior.

That, plus the fact that the hip-hop culture glorified the "who cares, I'm gonna die anyway" attitude. Suburbia took these attitudes for their own and now they're living empty, materialistic lives and thinking with their stomachs and their genitals instead of their heads.

 

[Crank_It_Up]

don't get mad because the smart and pretty girls haven't made themselves available to you guys. They do exist, they've already got someone better than you, that's all. If dissing them makes you feel better, then perhaps you have your own issues to deal with.

 

[JT47319]

Successful, beautiful women gravitate towards the most ideal and efficient marriage/sex marketplace.

They're in the exclusive, A-list clubs. The places where THEY pay $400 for table while looking for handsome, successful men.

 

[ScrewIt]

exactly, i know how you feel dude.

a hot intelligent girl is a real turn on for me. lesser smart girls dont turn me on as easily as the smart ones do...i dunno why
For once i'd like to meet someone where i can actually have an intelligent conversation with. i did one time @ a job interview, but i forgot to # close her and lost a chance.

where i work, this co-worker is 27 she's a mix, married of course but is around 7/8. even it's tough to have an intelligent conversation with her, just the basic stuff we talk about.

The reality is that women would prefer dating older guys cause they're much more mature and have their **** together. but why are they so demanding if theyre dumber than the average joe?? makes me sick

california love - you're right about that, i think thats why women dont push their potential

lol i also recall the other day my friend's co-worker was talkin about his hot chick being roomates with his wife....and the hot chick was asking his wife whether or not she should **** this guy.
he said she was just plain dumb but HOT.

 

[backbreaker]

JT47319, that's not really true, because any man who is rich, and actually earned his money in business doesn't go to clubs. You will never see Steve Jobs chillin at the newest trendy night joint or see Steve Ballimer out on the Hollywood strip.

As many of you know, I own my own company, and I an not rich, but I am very sucessful, espically for someone my age, and you can't catch me anywhere near a club. i don't want to be associated with the people who go to clubs, nothing against them, that's just not me. I feel that If I have enough time to go to the club, I have enough time to do some meaningful work.

Also, I have meat some very, extremely georgous woman in my line of work. I have meet some very, very smart woman. I have meet the CEO of Ebay, who is a woman. Pretty heady woman. I have even meet some pretty attractive, smart woman. I am talking about the a 10 out of 10 that graduated from Harvard.

Woman that smart don't go to "clubs", a list or not. They are doing somehting meaningful with their lives.

As I stated, I don't have a problem meeting people. I meet alot of new people on a daily basis, but I can't even think of someone famous who is the best of both worlds. In my eyes, Maria Bartiromo, a Co Anchor is the closest thing. She is hot in a business woman sort of way, and she graduated top of her class from NYU in economics and a minor in journlisum and has written 2 books.

I know a girl from high school who is pretty darn smart, but I am not talking about 7's and 8's, because she is around an 8. I am talking about someone you would think is to hot to even think about talking to her hot (not that I wouldn't but you get the point)

 

[backbreaker]

crank it up, I am not dissing all woman, how could I? I don't know them all. I am saying that the ones I know are either a small combo of both, or either smart and unatractive or a knockout and dumb as wheat.

Crank it up, i know at least 300 woman from around the country, and probably close to 500 if you count the ones I haven't seen in person because of my job. Out of these 300 woman or so, give or take a few, I can either say they are average at both, or one or the other.

I know an assistant for a software company who is beautiful, but I kid you not when she sent me a letter from her office one day and mispelled at least 1/3rd of the words, and she stutters.

I even know some knockouts who aren't dumb, but I just wouldn't say they are "smart".

 

[backbreaker]

last week I was sitting with a friend of mine who I do like (she is a girl) and she is pretty darn hot. She is by no means dumb, but I wouldn't just rush to put her in talented and gifted classes if you know what i mean. She COULD be pretty smart if she actually tried, but thats another story.

She is the laziest thing I know, and she admits it.

when I was talking to her, I had a revolation; she is so lazy and she is going to get away with it because she is good looking and someone will marry her and take care of her. Me on the other hand, if I am lazy and don't do anything with my life, I am a bum.

 

[backbreaker]

damnit now I have another Rant

i can't post anything on here, nor can anyone else, without someone coming out and flaming the poster. That's pitiful. you assume that something must be wrong with me because I haven't met anyone who is close to perfect?

How about this. Honeslty guys, if you don't have anything either good, or worthwhile, DON'T SAY ANYTHING. Just don't type. This board is here for positive reinforcement. How can people better themseleves with ****heads like some of you make people feel miserable with your responses. It may be silly to you, but it may be very important to them.

Someone called me a ***** last week because I made a big decision to stop talking to this girl last week ,and asked me why do I even care...[


BECASUE SHE IS ONE OF MY BEST ****ING FRIENDS, that's why. But that's none of your business ,nor should I have to tell you that, just either answer the question or don't type.


I see things on here that make me want to puke at times, but I keep my repsonses to myself, simply because It's not my place to laugh at anyone elses situtation.

 

[ScrewIt]

actually the majority of intelligent women that i've met in the past and present are the ones from foreign countries. either the ones that came here in their early teens or just for attending college in the u.s.a. they were the ones i was able to hold intelligent conversations with.

probably the thing with foreign girls is that they value education more cuz they actually realize it's an important factor to their future success. while the ones who were born here and raised here may "feel" they can get away with success by marrying someone who'll succeed for them, by relying on their looks. they're just liviing in the fantasy world, sad really.

btw, the majority of the female professors i've had and that teach in the college were from foreign countries. me from NYC thats how i see all.

 

[Scought]

Ill add to this

Ill add to this by saying that I agree with the majority on this thread.

Girls I have met in college are smart, if you can call it that, with school work. THey get good grades, but they are not street smart. Meaning out side of a controlled classroom, they are clueless. One girl I dated now brags to me about meeting a 'walk-on' basketball player at my school. Which means he a benchwarming athlete, and she likes him cause he plays sports. How Stupid.
Girls go for the first thing that will talk to them, at least around here. They dont know what they want, and when they do, it wil stare them in the face, and they are clueless.
Its a frustrating and sad situation younger girls are in now.
I hardly meet genuine women, who have things going for them, and are still social.
I get dissapointed constantly in women. Id like to meet some of quality, but unfortunatly that is looked down on, and its about the here and now, and how do we get back to your bedroom?
while thats fun for a while, it gets old, and you wonder if you can ever find a women that is independent but also socially adept.

Most of you are right, its what is preceived as cool, and really its just immaturity. A lot of girls just need to grow and learn and hopefully they make the right decisions. They act young and stupid and you call it on them, and they are completly oblivious to how they are acting.

The most intimidating thing to me, is an attractive, intelligent, thoughtful WOMAN, because I rarely see them, i'm not sure how to act.

 

[ScrewIt]

i do agree many dont have street smarts. that's why if you're in deep **** lost on the road or something, you cant rely on them.
probably only your guy friends you can.

this goes to show guys think with logic.
and girls think with emotions.

i think this is why women's method of thinking is blurred cause they cant think logically.

 

[Tails]

you guys are making me feel like just giving up. cause it's true, the one girl you dream of can never be found. at least for me

 

[BrWnSugaMan]

This is an interesting post but there are several things that need to be cleared up:

1.) backbreaker said...

"I asked her how she plans to get by later in life, you know, without giving *******s to your manager for a raise, and she pretty much said by her looks."

---What do you mean by "she pretty much said by her looks"? Please clarify this by telling us the exact words that she responded with. You told us the exact phrase you used to ask the question so it is only appropriate that you give us her exact words so what she said is not taken out of context or misinterpreted. If what she said was so important to you then you would remember her exact words.

Maybe you failed to tell us her exact words in order to further support a potential bias that you may have in your perception.


2.) backbreaker said...

"i can't post anything on here, nor can anyone else, without someone coming out and flaming the poster. That's pitiful. you assume that something must be wrong with me because I haven't met anyone who is close to perfect?

How about this. Honeslty guys, if you don't have anything either good, or worthwhile, DON'T SAY ANYTHING. Just don't type. This board is here for positive reinforcement. How can people better themseleves with ****heads like some of you make people feel miserable with your responses. It may be silly to you, but it may be very important to them."

--- Backbreaker, I don't know about your prior experiences but all of the arguments here have been constructive. It is okay for people to disagree with you. If people don't express their disagreement we will never be able to move forward in understanding women. You need to understand that people will hold different views on your topic and most people post in a constructive way. I agree with you that some people are jerks and should give more thought before posting, but the majority have valid and constructive arguments that add to the discussion. This wouldn't be much of a discussion if only the people who agreed with you replied. I know that I like to here the different points of views from different members because it allows me to better understand the issue at hand and thus form a strong opinion on my own.

I am in no way attempting to flame you. I think you have a valid point but others also make valid points and you need to be open to that or you will neve progress with women.