"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Tell me where I did wrong. I went to this auto insurance place today with my daughter to get quotes by a girl thats like an HB7.5. She has a nice body and fair sized tits. Anyway, I ask for her business card and kinda gave a hint hint that I was interested in her because i told her thanks for her number and I would call her sometime.And then she got up to shake my hand that it was nice meeting me. So fast forward to an hour later, i call her and say "Hey its me that was there earlier with the little girl" she says "hey whats up"

Me: "Hey what you think about doing something sometime?"
Her: "No sorry I cant i have a boyfriend"
Me: "Thats ok how about just one time I take you out to lunch?"
Her: "No i cant sorry"
Me: "ok bye"

and that was it.

please comment. I swear this girl had like half of her tit/cleavage showing while I was talking to her and I noticed it and she knew i looked at it. What should I have done? I didnt want to try to pick up on her in front of my kid so getting her business card was the best way as a stepping stone.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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they all have boyfriends. since she rejected you, i wouldn't be giving her no business. i'd go to her rival company and get me a policy.haha
 
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The nicer the breast, the nicer the sale. Most of these women are taken (Translation: You're not attractive enough)

When you looked at the cleavage, she knew she had you.
 
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This may be crazy, but it's possible she has a boyfriend and is faithful to him.
 
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tihash said:
This may be crazy, but it's possible she has a boyfriend and is faithful to him.
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Yes but that would make too much sense for most here.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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tihash said:
This may be crazy, but it's possible she has a boyfriend and is faithful to him.
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That possibility exists as well as the girl could be an attention wh0re.
 
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909pua said:
please comment. I swear this girl had like half of her tit/cleavage showing while I was talking to her and I noticed it and she knew i looked at it. What should I have done? I didnt want to try to pick up on her in front of my kid so getting her business card was the best way as a stepping stone.
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Well, I guess it's cool that you tried. But I don't see any indications that this girl was interested in you in any way. The only thing you can say about her is that she had cleavage showing. What gets you a date isn't asking for it...you have to build some kind of attraction. Can't just show up, ask for a number, and get a date.

What should you have done? I don't know.
A) she might have had a boyfriend.
B) maybe she just didn't like you. It's not like you kicked serious game to her. She's just some random that you came across.
 
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No attraction established

No amplification of emotions

No value established








PIMP
 
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909pua said:
Tell me where I did wrong. I went to this auto insurance place today with my daughter to get quotes by a girl thats like an HB7.5. She has a nice body and fair sized tits. Anyway, I ask for her business card and kinda gave a hint hint that I was interested in her because i told her thanks for her number and I would call her sometime.And then she got up to shake my hand that it was nice meeting me. So fast forward to an hour later, i call her and say "Hey its me that was there earlier with the little girl" she says "hey whats up"

Me: "Hey what you think about doing something sometime?"
Her: "No sorry I cant i have a boyfriend"
Me: "Thats ok how about just one time I take you out to lunch?"
Her: "No i cant sorry"
Me: "ok bye"

and that was it.

please comment. I swear this girl had like half of her tit/cleavage showing while I was talking to her and I noticed it and she knew i looked at it. What should I have done? I didnt want to try to pick up on her in front of my kid so getting her business card was the best way as a stepping stone.
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#1 - "something sometime" is what uncreative, AFC nice guys say.

#2 "take you out to lunch" - typical nice guy pvssy "date" suggestion where your $$ will be wasted, there will be no isolation, and no chance to hook up. You are also lying to both yourself and to her, because you WANT to fvck her, but you are trying to put up a front that you are a nice guy - creepy!!
 
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^ this.

And another problem was that you called her an hour after she gave you her number. I mean, seriously? You sounded a bit desperate man. Did you give her your number?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Pimp-sicle said:
No attraction established

No amplification of emotions

No value established

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Exactly. 909pua, where was your nonverbal game? Where was the kino? Where was the sexual escalation?

And with regards to value, you were staring down the boobs of a salesperson in front of your little daughter? :crackup: . I'll give you a high five and laugh with you for doing that, but that's because I'm 19 and in college and I enjoy being a little silly and irresponsible sometimes (within reason and the law, of course). But that kind of lack of discretion might lower your value to a woman you are trying to pick up, it shows irresponsibility and a poor role model to your daughter, what if your kid is like "Daddy, why were you looking at that nice lady's chest?" ?


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#1 - "something sometime" is what uncreative, AFC nice guys say.
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"Something sometime" indicates you aren't too sure of yourself and that you don't know what you're doing! You'll get clues about date ideas in conversations, e.g. if she likes impressionist art, and you heard about a Monet exhibition in your local gallery next week, there you go, a date idea! To get that kindof convo going, you have to engage with her instead of only discussing auto insurance policies!


909pua said:
Anyway, I ask for her business card and kinda gave a hint hint that I was interested in her because i told her thanks for her number and I would call her sometime.And then she got up to shake my hand that it was nice meeting me. So fast forward to an hour later, i call her and say "Hey its me that was there earlier with the little girl" she says "hey whats up"
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See, you don't game her! Her giving a business card wasn't a number close at all! If she gave you her personal cell number, or a personal email, THAT would have been a number/email close! Saying you would call her sometime isn't a hint, it could just mean "I'll call you to confirm the insurance policy", because that's what you were discussing! And her shaking your hand was in NO WAY an IOI, that was strictly professional!

And when you did call, you reminded her who you were, so she would be like "Oh yeah, that was the guy who stared at my tits infront of a little girl who might be his daughter!"

I really don't mean to be hard on you but I hope I brought up some areas of your game that need improving!

Escalation and verbal engagement with a girl are important parts of seduction, if you did those right, then who knows, you might be fvcking her while her boyfriend is away on a business trip in Hawaii!
 
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