Guys, I'm writing here to get your support again, feel free to beat me up if needed. After last wake-up call from you bros, i went no contact seriously, 3 days passed and today she texted me (i knew she would have done it) "I had a dream about you, you were coming to my house to visit me, how are you doing? bla bla bla". Is she just teasing me, checking whether I am available, trying to get an emotional fix from me just to have an ego boost, spin one of her plates after she rejected me? My intention is to stay NC but maybe you can help me understand what she's trying to do.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I had a dream about you txt
- Thread starter joker79
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Purefilth
Master Don Juan
forget about it, it doesnt matter, let her little hamster wheel spin away. youre better than this girl, shes not worth the time it takes to analyse.
DUDE, FVCKING IGNORE HER - THAT'S WHAT NC MEANS! This is classic "trying to get her ego / emotional fix" manipulative behaviour. She knows exactly how to play you and pull you back and you are already biting at the bit and seeking justification for re-contacting her.
Think of it in these terms:
You were her little b1tch, serving her ego. Always making her feel like she was the greatest women in the world, heck, you probably even told her that her sh1t doesn't stink. She could treat you like a cvnt and you'd still worship her, she loves that. Every day when she went out looking for the Alpha c0ck she REALLY wants inside her, you are there as the fallback, still making her feel good about herself.
Then one day, you finally realised you're an idiot and *WOOSH* you're gone. What do you think she's left with? That dread that no man thinks she's a fvcking Princess, that's what. That thought screws women up. So what is she going to do?...... Yep, try every cunning cvnt tactic to get her doting little b1tch back.
"Mmmmm... I haven't had my daily ego massage and I don't like it. It's OK, Joker79 can't resist me, after all I'm his Queen...I mean, how dare he ignore me anyway?! I know, I'll just ping him a text, a little teaser, make him think he's in with a chance. He's my good little b1tch, if I say the right thing I know he'll be back wagging his tail and be back licking at my feet..... Yeah, that's what I'll do."
Dude, wake the fvck up!!!!
Think of it in these terms:
You were her little b1tch, serving her ego. Always making her feel like she was the greatest women in the world, heck, you probably even told her that her sh1t doesn't stink. She could treat you like a cvnt and you'd still worship her, she loves that. Every day when she went out looking for the Alpha c0ck she REALLY wants inside her, you are there as the fallback, still making her feel good about herself.
Then one day, you finally realised you're an idiot and *WOOSH* you're gone. What do you think she's left with? That dread that no man thinks she's a fvcking Princess, that's what. That thought screws women up. So what is she going to do?...... Yep, try every cunning cvnt tactic to get her doting little b1tch back.
"Mmmmm... I haven't had my daily ego massage and I don't like it. It's OK, Joker79 can't resist me, after all I'm his Queen...I mean, how dare he ignore me anyway?! I know, I'll just ping him a text, a little teaser, make him think he's in with a chance. He's my good little b1tch, if I say the right thing I know he'll be back wagging his tail and be back licking at my feet..... Yeah, that's what I'll do."
Dude, wake the fvck up!!!!
seethehoop
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I've had this recently. I ignored it. Its just a request for an ego stoke, she wants attention. She wants to feel energised but it well leave you feeling drained. Stay on the nc for def.
I'd be tempted to write back "Yep, musta been a dream!"
Seriously, that's the best she could come up with? She's just throwing the line out and she's not even using good bait. Seems you got rejected by an incredibly dumb girl my friend.
Seriously, that's the best she could come up with? She's just throwing the line out and she's not even using good bait. Seems you got rejected by an incredibly dumb girl my friend.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
@Cremasta: actually I can't understand, that's why I'm a little bit confused and I continue to be borderline to the abyss. She's intelligent but she came out of a long years relationship and she seemed to have lost the brain. She started it when she was young so maybe it's just lack of practise, dunno. My impression - but i can be wrong - is that she want to have fun after so many years in prison and check sometime my "temperature" as I'm probably "marriage material" and she doesn't want to lose me. But she went recently from really hot to cold (she threw the "I'm not ready" b*******) so i can't really interpret if she has completely lost her mind, she's playing games or I'm out.
don't feel sorry for the girl, think about yourself, and keep the NC, its the best you can do, let her ego be crushed and move on, it all better if she or her friends saw you with someone else it will make her go crazy and keep the NC
Quick update bros: message ignored, she called me two days after (was my birthday) to check and to tell me how she was. I kept it short but polite and she sent some messages immediately after the phone call to close some points, she seemed to be sad. Now she's going on holiday for two weeks and this is the time we should have spent together if she hadn't freaked out. My perception is that now she's doubtful as I didn't show any interest and I'm still NC. She was confused and I'm wondering if my silence is reinforcing the idea that to split was the right choice. I'm trying to move on anyway and following your advice bros; even if we didn't break up as we weren't a couple, I can't see any strong behaviuor towards me. If I were her I'd feel a little bit timorous to contact me as my attitute towards herchanged completely
You're all over the place with this one. More importantly, you're in limbo with yourself. Look bud,you have two options here:joker79 said:Quick update bros: message ignored, she called me two days after (was my birthday) to check and to tell me how she was. I kept it short but polite and she sent some messages immediately after the phone call to close some points, she seemed to be sad. Now she's going on holiday for two weeks and this is the time we should have spent together if she hadn't freaked out. My perception is that now she's doubtful as I didn't show any interest and I'm still NC. She was confused and I'm wondering if my silence is reinforcing the idea that to split was the right choice. I'm trying to move on anyway and following your advice bros; even if we didn't break up as we weren't a couple, I can't see any strong behaviuor towards me. If I were her I'd feel a little bit timorous to contact me as my attitute towards herchanged completely
1)Keep in touch with her. Note that this would involve allowing her to fvck with your mind as long as you are in contact. In all probability, this will end badly and you will have wasted alot of your precious time on her. Not recommended.
2)Cut her out and move on, without worrying all the time about what shes thinking/doing. Yes its the harder choice. But that's why its the right thing to do.
Don't waste time on people who play games with your emotions.
Naughty Ninja
Banned
joker79 said:Guys, I'm writing here to get your support again, feel free to beat me up if needed. After last wake-up call from you bros, i went no contact seriously, 3 days passed and today she texted me (i knew she would have done it) "I had a dream about you, you were coming to my house to visit me, how are you doing? bla bla bla". Is she just teasing me, checking whether I am available, trying to get an emotional fix from me just to have an ego boost, spin one of her plates after she rejected me? My intention is to stay NC but maybe you can help me understand what she's trying to do.
My guess would be "she's" trying to tell you to give up trolololing and cancel your PUA hate or BB.com account.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
You are not NC if you answered her call. No Contact means No Contact. She is trying to manipulate you to serve her ego. Don't let her.joker79 said:Quick update bros: message ignored, she called me two days after (was my birthday) to check and to tell me how she was. I kept it short but polite and she sent some messages immediately after the phone call to close some points, she seemed to be sad...
...My perception is that now she's doubtful as I didn't show any interest and I'm still NC.
@uberguy: you're right. I explain you why I answered as I've a concern: as we weren't a couple and were at early stages of dating (+ sex of course), I can't say we broke up and I think that the "miss you" factor is not so fully developed. Is it then meaningful to go NC?
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
What's happening in her head doesn't matter. It's crazysauce in there. She is not worth your time. Your sense of struggle is entirely self-created. You possess the power to stop thinking about her. If you must think about her, think concretely about every flaw of hers (and stop putting her on a pedestal). Once you liberate yourself from this false illusion of her, you will be free.joker79 said:4th day and struggling, it's really hard because dunno what's happening in her head. Keeping myself busy and deleted mob number to avoid temptations. If she's interested, she will call.
guys before doing a ENORMOUS b******t, let me ask a question: we haven't been in contact for a week now, she's on holiday (and enjoying it without me probably) and last time we talked she started the conversation with the txt mentioned in the title and called me for my birthday. No contact since then. she is enjoying her time after the breakup of a 7 years relationhsip with previous bf. Now I think that if I don't feed the contact, it will be lost and I was thinking to re-engage with a short, not relationship-oriented, no-pressure txt or call. Of course, re-engaging without any IL signal it's really dangerous and can be interpreted as a needy behaviour. I think anyway that this no contact from her is due to the fact that the situation is not clear and she is supposed to make it clear once we get in touch again. I'm quite good in keeping things light and with no pressure, just wondering if I'm f****** up things with such a re-engaging. Dunno if there's any chance currently, dunno really what to do. Help guys, feel free to :kick: as i'm getting crazy
Fvck me, another AFC bargaining with himself again on why he should break NC because otherwise she'll forget about him. You so want to serve her ego, you have lost all self esteem. You want to go back to carrying her shopping and cleaning the sh1t out of her rabbit hutch for her and house sitting her cat whilst she's riding the c0ck of some roid head guy who she picked up at the gym. Telling her she's wonderful and "I'll do anything for you" with that vacant little choir boy look in your eye.joker79 said:guys before doing a ENORMOUS b******t, let me ask a question: we haven't been in contact for a week now, she's on holiday (and enjoying it without me probably) and last time we talked she started the conversation with the txt mentioned in the title and called me for my birthday. No contact since then. she is enjoying her time after the breakup of a 7 years relationhsip with previous bf. Now I think that if I don't feed the contact, it will be lost and I was thinking to re-engage with a short, not relationship-oriented, no-pressure txt or call. Of course, re-engaging without any IL signal it's really dangerous and can be interpreted as a needy behaviour. I think anyway that this no contact from her is due to the fact that the situation is not clear and she is supposed to make it clear once we get in touch again. I'm quite good in keeping things light and with no pressure, just wondering if I'm f****** up things with such a re-engaging. Dunno if there's any chance currently, dunno really what to do. Help guys, feel free to :kick: as i'm getting crazy
joker79, there is seriously is no helping you. You are so omega that even when she's fvcking some Alpha guy (which is happening on her holiday as we speak), and she's calling you up for advice on how to improve her oral technique on him, you'll be convincing yourself that if you try harder you still have a chance.
Call her, learn the hard way why we are correct and you haven't got an absolute clue.
Thanks, I needed that, I'll stay NC. It's not omega or alpha, is the fact I invested so much, she introduced me to her family so I think it's natural to try to "save" the situation. Maybe it's not worth it and I'm asking your advice as I can't see it clearly due to oneitis. Thanks bros
Renegade357
Master Don Juan
Sounds like she's trying to keep a level head with the other guy she's seeing. Using you as an emotional balance. Don't give her anything.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.