"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I got punked last night.

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Gotta Vent,

Been seeing this chick for a month.. Went on three or four dates... The dates went well.

Hung out with her last Wednesday, let some AFC moves slip in... She was sick and I still kissed her. She told me she was thinking about canceling because she was so sick she had to stay home from work, but decided not too. I told her I'm glad she didn't cancel cause it would have been a little weird if she did.. When I really should have said, if your sick, by all means cancel.

I called her up last night to take her out to a comedy club. We talked **** for about 10 minutes, lots of laughing, I ask her how her weekend was, she asks about mine.. Then I ask her to go to the comedy club and she just laughs a bit. Then she informs me that on Saturday night she bumped into a guy that she had been seeing before me, but blew off cause he was a jerk, then was seeing again, but then she figured out he was an a@@hole... Long story short, she basically told me that she's still got feelings for him and doesn't know what I want, but knows she doesn't know what she wants and if the circumstances were different blah blah blah..

Same old sh1t. Guy treats her like crap and she can't get over him.

B1tches
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Just a Shot Away

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I was recently in a similar position, where my trashy ex never got over her trashy ex.

This chick sounds like trash, too. Can't get over him even though he's an ass and treats her like crap? So she's insecure, LSE, a poor judge of character, and indecisive. If I learned anything from my last relationship, it would be to lose a girl like this ASAP. Try for one of the other 700 million women in the world between the ages of 18-34.
 

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Just a Shot Away said:
I was recently in a similar position, where my trashy ex never got over her trashy ex.

This chick sounds like trash, too. Can't get over him even though he's an ass and treats her like crap? So she's insecure, LSE, a poor judge of character, and indecisive. If I learned anything from my last relationship, it would be to lose a girl like this ASAP. Try for one of the other 700 million women in the world between the ages of 18-34.
Thanks man.. I was thinking the same thing when she told me this..
 
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You may have posted this more for moral support than advice, and this is one of those things that there are two kinds of 1) Guys who have been there and admit it and 2) Guys who have been there, but don't. One woman whom I ****ed and dropped like a hot potateo over a year ago is still ranting about me to a friend of mine. I know several other women who at times blew off good guys to pursue married men or guys who basically made themselves unavailable for the most part. It's something a certain percentage of women go through, at least for a portion of their lives. It may also come and go with interim periods of selecting guys who are totally the opposite of that.

Now, that you've seen it, you'll be quicker to recognize it in the future. Eventually, you will learn how to use it to your advantage at times, but it's best not to dwell too much on it as it's easy to lose objectivity.

I get the feeling that you do not have enough pots on the fire at any one time. It sounds like you didn't have that much invested to really feel burned about this.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I will never understand why girls like to be treated like crap.
Here's my theory: It has to do with the whole domination/submissive thing. Most here would agree that women are attracted to dominant men. This is just an extension of it, these guys are dominating these women. I wouldn't go so far as to say they LIKE it (although some probably do), but I think this explains why they might tolerate it, or overlook it.

I know several other women who at times blew off good guys to pursue married men or guys who basically made themselves unavailable for the most part.
The good guys weren't pushing their buttons, while the unavailable guys were (maybe unintentionally). Then the women imprint on these guys, they bond with them, they become emotionally involved with them. That's why they aren't satisfied with the random good guy, they want the guy who gives them their "fix".
 

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zekko said:
Here's my theory: It has to do with the whole domination/submissive thing. Most here would agree that women are attracted to dominant men. This is just an extension of it, these guys are dominating these women. I wouldn't go so far as to say they LIKE it (although some probably do), but I think this explains why they might tolerate it, or overlook it.


The good guys weren't pushing their buttons, while the unavailable guys were (maybe unintentionally). Then the women imprint on these guys, they bond with them, they become emotionally involved with them. That's why they aren't satisfied with the random good guy, they want the guy who gives them their "fix".

It's supply and demand, the good guys are selling cheap compliments wholesale to any woman that comes along, the bad boy is selling limited time offer compliments to select female members.
 

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It's supply and demand, the good guys are selling cheap compliments wholesale to any woman that comes along, the bad boy is selling limited time offer compliments to select female members.
I was thinking something similar to this. I don't even think it has anything to do with the "bad boy" really. It's just like with hot girls - the hottest girls are already taken. Same thing with the guys I suppose - the most attractive and in demand guys are already taken (however you define attractive).

The "available" good guys are available for a reason. But girls will still be attracted to the top guys, even if they're already spoken for.
 

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I grilled two ex hookups that I no longer lived near at length about this. Although both were highly attractive, I found out both were overweight quite a bit at one time in their lives. One from a medical condition and the other just got fat for a while.

One openly stated the reason she was pursuing the guy was because he wouldn't give her any compliments, not even the slightest bit but all the other guys did. The guy was the worst of the three guys she was seeing in bed, too. This went on for some time, then one day she suddenly dropped him.

The other seemed to be seeking some kind of validation, too. There were a couple of guys who liked her that sounded pretty OK, but she kept blowing them off when the other guy was available (let's call him guy A). One of them called her out on it, and after that it was like a switch went off. I never heard her mention A again.

Both of these chicks would cry over their guy A's when they were in the drama and blowing off other people to see them. Both suddenly stopped responding as well. Ironically, both guy A's eventually turned into mini stalkers pursuing the women for weeks after she stopped responding to them. I regard it as something that happens, something that you can use if you happen to notice it, but not something I would try to cultivate per say.
 

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everywomanshero said:
You may have posted this more for moral support than advice, and this is one of those things that there are two kinds of 1) Guys who have been there and admit it and 2) Guys who have been there, but don't. One woman whom I ****ed and dropped like a hot potateo over a year ago is still ranting about me to a friend of mine. I know several other women who at times blew off good guys to pursue married men or guys who basically made themselves unavailable for the most part. It's something a certain percentage of women go through, at least for a portion of their lives. It may also come and go with interim periods of selecting guys who are totally the opposite of that.
It's funny because you know girls go for jerks... but I've never heard a chick actually verbalize that the guys was a jerk and an ******* and that she still liked him in spite of it..

It's not like I'm a total AFC or anything.. I don't drop compliments, I don't buy em flowers or call em all the time, just try and make em laugh as much as possible when we are kickin it and not let their sh1t tests get to me.


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I get the feeling that you do not have enough pots on the fire at any one time. It sounds like you didn't have that much invested to really feel burned about this.
Very true, need to start spinning more plates. Truth be told, it's been 5 years or so since I took a chick out on a couple of dates and didn't end up with her asking for a relationship.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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