"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I got her number!!

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it's not necessary the impression (although it helps) it's the point that nothign is getting accomlished.

lol, when has sitting on the phone with a woman ever railed up emotions in a woman that make her want to rip your clothes off and get busy?

NEVER

Now, Ive been in situtations where a woman was so stuck on me I could have came on a date with **** stained underwear on the outside of my pants and she would have hand washed them for them and then given me a BJ (meaning situtations where I couldn't fvuk up if I tried), but you don't want that, and I don't think this is one of thoose situtations.

Plus, you shouldn't have time to be sitting on the phone anyway. That's the real point
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Geez...
I called to set up a date. She did not answer. I left a short message. Did not leave my number. I pretty much KNEW she was not gonna answer the phone since her shift ended at ten, I called a little before.

If I wanted to chit chat, I woulda said call me at: and left my number

probably effed up

All I get is call her, don't call her. I got her number YESTERDAY. Not right when I left work tonight. I told her I was gonna call.

Why was I gonna call? To set up a date.

Im probably gonna eff up more. Cause I intend to call her tomorrow and set up a date.
 

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If you are gonna call tomorrow, you are gonna be making an AFC mistake. YOU CALLED HER and SHE KNOWS YOU DID. NOW IT'S HER TURN TO SHOW SOME INTEREST. If you call tomorrow and she doesn't you, you will be showing too much interest, and she WILL AVOID YOU LIKE THE PLAGUE. I know you are gonna fvck this up. It's hilarious.
 

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gee thanks
she don't have my number

What do I do to fix this then? I obviously screwed my self
fun while it lasted
 

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If you didn't block it, your number should be on her phone, and if she is interested at all, she would write your number down after you called like a girl did for me before. But, in this case, I doubt she did that.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Caller ID.. she has your number


don't look for an excuse to call.. it's tempting

man keep in mind WE HAVE ALL BEEN THERE.. WE ALL WANT TO GUILD YOU HOME.. WE DON'T WANT TO HURT YOU. TRUST ME WHEN I SAY ON THE PATH YOU ARE GOING ON YOU WILL BE MAKING A POST ABOUT 2 WEEKS FROM NOW ASKIGN ARE YOU IN THE FRIENDZONE.

Do NOT CALL hER BACK.


worst case senerio, you see her again at work, she says why didn't you leave your number and you give it to her. But don't call and give it to her when she has caller id.. every american has caller id.

also, why in the hell would you call someone knowing thye aren't going to pick up?

Are you that afraid of this woman?
 

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No. Im not afraid of her.
I thought I was messing with her. Guess not
As far as the caller ID, im not so sure... it may be blocked. But if not, then she does indeed have my number.
 

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Slitherjef - You seem to know how to make fun conversations with this girl, making you seem like a fun person, demonstrating value in her eyes. About these whole calling issues, do what you want! don't worry about when you're calling. Don't think about right or wrong, you are a guy, so you're always right. If you think about all this stuff too much it will be more likely to make you nervous and mess up.

The only things you have to do is be a fun person, and keep things escalating. (being flirty, sexual)

So call when you want. That's what men do, what they want, when they want.
 

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So... just don't hit the panic switch yet. Just wait till I see her at work and take it from there.

Right?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Of course not. Dude you are no where near messing it up with her, if she's not interested now, then she most likely was never interested. I don't see anything that you have done from your posts that would have caused anything bad to happen. So just relax, and keep doing what you been doing.
 

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the only reason he hasn't messed up is becuase he hasn't been put in a position TO mess up yet. I'm trying to prevent him from doing so.

It's not what he's done yet persay.. which you are right.. nothing.... it's his attitute about the whole thing and knowing what he is TRYING to do. how oevereager he seems to talk to her, how he wanted to call her as soon as he got off work but she wasn't there so he couldn't talk to her, how we was going to call back AGAIN after he already left a message.


I'm done.. it is what it is
 

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backbreaker said:
the only reason he hasn't messed up is becuase he hasn't been put in a position TO mess up yet. I'm trying to prevent him from doing so.

It's not what he's done yet persay.. which you are right.. nothing.... it's his attitute about the whole thing and knowing what he is TRYING to do. how oevereager he seems to talk to her, how he wanted to call her as soon as he got off work but she wasn't there so he couldn't talk to her, how we was going to call back AGAIN after he already left a message.


I'm done.. it is what it is
Err.... I called before she got off work. I was done off. I called hours later after I was off.
 

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Well, I guess this went downhill pretty fast

She probably does have my number, unless she don't have caller ID, but I suspect I was calling her cell, so it likly would. The phone rang twice before going to voicemail meaing she could have been screening the call, just could not answer and hit ignore/silence to shut it up or 3rd, just not interested. She may not answer calls at work.

At anyrate, I will just go through my day as usual, but knowing I probably blew my chances with her. I doubt she works today and Im off tomorrow. Maybe a couple days with out seeing/hearing from me may get her panties wet and get her ass in gear.

If she is there today I will just keep my usual distance from her, not hang on her. Say whats up if she crosses my path and the same as I have been doing. Otherwise I will likly end up seeing her mid week and just up the same routine.

So the calling is on hold unless she calls me back, then I will not answer and call back later
 

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perfect.. that's the exact attitude you need to take

however I don't think you blew your chances iwth her.. not by a longshot. If for anyhting, she's a single mommie with 3 kids. words cant' describe how many guys run at the world "kid".. including myself, so you will get ample opprotunity to get with her, that much I can promise you. she will probalby cook for you, treat you as well as she can...... what we are here for is to help keep you at an even keel and understand what's going on


all you do now is wait
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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slitherjef said:
At anyrate, I will just go through my day as usual, but knowing I probably blew my chances with her.
Do NOT think like that. Always assume she wants you. It helps build your confidence.

You really just need to learn to relax.
 
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No kid, she's not an attention hor - she's just a regular hor!!!!! You are 29 and this seems to be your first hor encounter - I advise you to stay away - if you pursue her it must be a pursuit of a pimp!! You are not a pimp - so I suggest you pursue a plain hor instead of a giga-hor for your first attempt!!
 
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