"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I got everything to be a DJ, except for one little thing..

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What I have:
- Looks
- Attraction/interest from hot girls wherever I go
- Education
- Money
- a BMW
- Affraid of no one

What I am missing:
- The courage to speak to a girl for fun or you know...

I have tried to convince myself, tried to force myself, but no results. I feel hopeless in this scene, and I am willing to pay a real DJ to just walk with me and approach girls for some training.

Some tips are welcome in this topic..
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Prodigy746

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Lot of people are like that including me. You need to read the bible if you havent. I used to be the same way but you need to start small. This is what i did

I started conversations with random people mostly older women and older guys. Once i got comfterble talking to them i started to talk to random guys and girls just to get used to conversation. After that i just randomly started talking to average girls HB 5-6 until i got comfterble with that. I moved up the latter. You need experience, if you try to force a conversation they will sense that you are trying too hard and you will look like a creep approaching. Also having friends with you when you do it will help so find coupla friends and approach everyone not just hot girls.
 

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sunlite said:
What I have:
- Looks
- Attraction/interest from hot girls wherever I go
- Education
- Money
- a BMW
- Affraid of no one

What I am missing:
- The courage to speak to a girl for fun or you know...

I have tried to convince myself, tried to force myself, but no results. I feel hopeless in this scene, and I am willing to pay a real DJ to just walk with me and approach girls for some training.

Some tips are welcome in this topic..
You say you are afraid of no one but then say you lack the courage to speak to a girl. Elaborate on that.

Forget the DJ bible. It is overrated and makes everything more complicated than it really is. It is the fuzzy blanket fanboys bury themselves in for comfort when they should be out getting real experience.

Tell us where you run into the girls you are attracted to and we can provide some specific advice.
 

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sunlite said:
What I have:
- Looks
- Attraction/interest from hot girls wherever I go
- Education
- Money
- a BMW
- Affraid of no one

What I am missing:
- The courage to speak to a girl for fun or you know...

I have tried to convince myself, tried to force myself, but no results. I feel hopeless in this scene, and I am willing to pay a real DJ to just walk with me and approach girls for some training.

Some tips are welcome in this topic..
So you're a goodlooking, rich AFC! :eek:
 

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It's just one of those things you have to get over on your own. Start talking t seniors. They allways love to talk to young people. And just go younger and younger till you hit your age. Most of this isn't about being afraid to talk to women. It's about becomming social in general. And don't use routines. They are for fake people.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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What I have:

I'm decent looking.
I'm Fat.
A ****ty Job.
Drink a lot of beer.
I smell good.
I dress like a rockabilly, and have nice hair.
No car.
The ability to say anything I want to anyone and not care.
Confidence.

Seriously, If a fat blue collared dude like me can get tail... you have issues friend.



God... If I had all that **** I'd be a machine...

If I had a car I'd be gettin laid a lot more....

If you're scared of rejection, you're getting exactly what you deserve. Grow a pair and just do it.

Whats gonna happen?

Oh I know tomorrow you'll open the friggin Tribune and see your face on the front page "REJECTED SHOT DOWN" as the big story, and everyone will point and laugh at you. You'll get an entire front page spread.

Or maybe she'll just say yes.... and you'll *gasp* go have some damn fun.
 

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DJCT said:
You say you are afraid of no one but then say you lack the courage to speak to a girl. Elaborate on that.
Maybe power is the right word, many know me and know they don't want to mess with me. I am not someone who is affraid to speak, far from that, but it seems to NOT be the case when it is with a girl for fun.

DJCT said:
Tell us where you run into the girls you are attracted to and we can provide some specific advice.
I constantly have so many good opertunities to talk to girls, they just beg (in a quiet way) to hear me start a convo. But I seldom start it.

Example of today, I was studying in a library when a hot girl sat next to me (actually the other side of the 2 seat table) and we looked at each other very short, and smiled. Suddenly some crazy guys was talking in the quiet area, and she constantly looked at them and then at me with a smile, I should have said something to her, but I didn't.

At college, all the boys here are even more worse than AFC, I join very little of them, because they all go to stupid parties with NO or little girls!!! They don't look at girls or even search, it almost looks like they are all gay or care about porn only!

I always thought our girls are needy untill I went to usa for a few weeks (I will leave the story and the usa vs europe girls comparison for later).. :cool:
 

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HalfAddict said:
I smell good.
I dress like a rockabilly, and have nice hair.
No car.
The ability to say anything I want to anyone and not care.
Confidence.
Smell is indeed important (at least for me), but last few weeks I have kept my hair without hairgel and just a bit mixed up, an increase in the sexy glances from girls actually, but maybe the hot weather is a cause.. :)

What is the DJ Boot Camp?

I read many things in the DJ bible, and it's all very basic and logic. What I need is to kill off that little thing that pushes me away from approaching girls.
 

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sunlite said:
What I have:
- Looks
- Attraction/interest from hot girls wherever I go
- Education
- Money
- a BMW
- Affraid of no one
You have no idea how big of an advantage you have compared to so many guys who do not have all that. There are lots of books of knowledge. Techniques like Mystery Method, if are into the Pick-Up Artist thing. Read this book:

Rules of the game, by Neil Strauss.

and read posts on sosuave.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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sunlite said:
What I have:
- Looks
- Attraction/interest from hot girls wherever I go
- Education
- Money
- a BMW
- Affraid of no one

What I am missing:
- The courage to speak to a girl for fun or you know...

I have tried to convince myself, tried to force myself, but no results. I feel hopeless in this scene, and I am willing to pay a real DJ to just walk with me and approach girls for some training.

Some tips are welcome in this topic..
It's like anything else that is unfamiliar to you. Tennis, golf, bowling, etc. You're not going to be a pro the first time you do it, and it might feel really awkward, but you're guaranteed to get better with experience.

Talk to every hot girl you see until the awkwardness goes away and it becomes like second nature. Hell, you know you probably won't get turned down on account of your looks, car, etc., so that should give you added confidence.

Try to talk to at least five new women a day for the next month, then come back here and report how your confidence level is compared to today when you made this post. I'm betting you'll see a big difference.
 

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I am a good talker, I am marketing director of a telecom company and can easily talk with anyone. I have done presentations to hundreds of people at the same time with no problems or shyness. I have good experience with body language, I can easily interpret many and have no doubts about these skills.

But when I start a convo with a girl for fun, my head turns red, my voice changes a bit and I become very insecure. I don't know why, maybe because girls have never been an important part in my life, maybe because my communication (at high school) and currently at work is for 95% with males.

I think I need a personal coach who can be with me to slowly start convo's on the street or anywhere just for fun. No idea where to find someone like that, he could sarge and at the same time earn money.

I forgot to add that I have NEVER felt that the girls I approached so far did not like me or at least did not enjoy the conversation. Many of the girls were actually shy like me if not even more.. Despite the "low-reject-to-talk-level" from girls, I still don't approach girls, and if I do it is just some simple questions.

I will give the daily approach with reporting here a try..:eek:
 

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HalfAddict said:
What I have:

I'm decent looking.
I'm Fat.
A ****ty Job.
Drink a lot of beer.
I smell good.
I dress like a rockabilly, and have nice hair.
No car.
The ability to say anything I want to anyone and not care.
Confidence.

Seriously, If a fat blue collared dude like me can get tail... you have issues friend.



God... If I had all that **** I'd be a machine...

If I had a car I'd be gettin laid a lot more....

If you're scared of rejection, you're getting exactly what you deserve. Grow a pair and just do it.

Whats gonna happen?

Oh I know tomorrow you'll open the friggin Tribune and see your face on the front page "REJECTED SHOT DOWN" as the big story, and everyone will point and laugh at you. You'll get an entire front page spread.

Or maybe she'll just say yes.... and you'll *gasp* go have some damn fun.
that was awesome
 

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Half addict hit the nail on the preverbial head.

I think the original poster focuses so much on the 'superficial' part of success, that you've lost touch to connecting with people. You've attained all your professional goals, but, can't conversate with women? Would you truely consider yourself successful?

My advice to you is to start getting a network of social proof/platonic female friends. Women you can just be comfortable around without worrying about trying to get them in bed. Go to social events with these women. Chat up topics like sports, sex, movies, etc. Go to bars with them, dance with them, have dinner with them, hit the gym with them. The more you hang around them, the more you will understand how they tick. The more comfortable you are around the social proof network, the more comfortable you will be around women you truly desire.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Hey sunlight, I know this is gunna sting like pulling off a bandaid, but if you want to get over your fear of people quick... do the following steps:

1) Dress up as a women (Not too well mind you)
2) Go to a femist convention
3) and tell each fat nazi women that you want to 'pork them with your manhood'.

If that doesn't solve your self confidence issues, I don't know what will.

Also, theirs an alternative to this, GO OUT AND MEET PEOPLE.

Sure, its hard, heck I'm a RAFC and I'm still having trouble with the opener stage, but each day try at least once to start a convo with 1 person you've never met.

You know what that equals, 7 people a week, 30ish a month, and 365 a year.

Thats loads of people, and guess what it's simple. Soon you'll find that people honestly like meetibg other people, and for all the song and dance that goes into pick-up it by far is the steepest part of the learning curve. Soon you'll find that regardless, these people don't matter to you, and eventually you'll gain social skillz to be reconized.

Soon... you'll notice that somethings changed inside of you, you're actually enjoying yourself. once this happens, then try to pick up a girl. You'll notice a definate change.
 

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I f****d up again today, by not taking a VERY easy chance.

WTF am I doing :cuss:

I am considering doing some pua courses (real life) in London. Anyone who tried it before?
 

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sunlite said:
What I have:
- Looks
- Attraction/interest from hot girls wherever I go
- Education
- Money
- a BMW
- Affraid of no one

What I am missing:
- The courage to speak to a girl for fun or you know...

I have tried to convince myself, tried to force myself, but no results. I feel hopeless in this scene, and I am willing to pay a real DJ to just walk with me and approach girls for some training.

Some tips are welcome in this topic..
Sounds like its an ego problem with the ladies. You are so afraid they may reject you (how dare she refuse to go out with me? Doesn't she know what I drive?) that you don't even risk putting yourself out there. Another thing: in your description its all about "I have this, I have that.", if a girl does not FEEL you care for her and will protect her, you could have half of the world, she still won't sleep with you. [/B]
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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