"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I got a date with a secret operative

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iqqi said:
You have a LOUSY LOUSY memory.

You are p!ssed about the picture incident, not the neg. The neg came like weeks after, along with a bunch of whiny one liners. @ss!!!

What picture incident? I have no idea what you are referring to....
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Selective memory.

I bet this spy chick used one of them fancy memory erasers on you.

It's all good in the hood. Forgiven, but not forgotten.
 
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iqqi said:
Selective memory.

I bet this spy chick used one of them fancy memory erasers on you.

It's all good in the hood. Forgiven, but not forgotten.

I just recalled you mean the one where you are nothing but a shadow? That makes sense because you can't be real.
 

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HAHA the picture incident...She is running background checks on you buddy.
 
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Well, she texted me tonight and I replied and told her to call me.

She called me and I tried to secure the date Saturday with me picking her up @ her place. She didn't give me a definitive "yes".. she said something like "we could do that" but she says she may have to work and she will know by Wednesday. I told her I just needed to know what I doing this weekend and she said "have another date?" and I played it off and said no.

I am p!ssed I didn't get the yes and her address to pick her up. I smell BS with the work excuse.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I'd say stop worrying so much, it's Monday and you're complaining about not having Saturday plans yet? It's much more fun to be spontaneous.
 
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OMG guys she texted me asking for my last name again.. I have a weird last name she is gonna be like "WTF?"

So I texted her "lol come get it" and she said she can't right now and asked me "why are you being so secretive"?

LoL what should I say?
 
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My Name is Nobody said:
OMG guys she texted me asking for my last name again.. I have a weird middle eastern last name she is gonna be like "WTF?"

So I texted her "lol come get it" and she said she can't right now and asked me "why are you being so secretive"?

LoL what should I say?
isn't she the secret agent?
 

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When I was ready to go I walked her to her car and I hugged her and used the "if I kiss you will i get hit by a sniper" line.. she was like "no i'm not being watched"..
LOL
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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My Name is Nobody said:
OMG guys she texted me asking for my last name again.. I have a weird middle eastern last name she is gonna be like "WTF?"

So I texted her "lol come get it" and she said she can't right now and asked me "why are you being so secretive"?

LoL what should I say?
If she works for CIA/FBI then giving her your last name means that she will run background check on you.

the last thing you need is for her get your IP address and start checking out the sites you come on. haha she is going to find you on sosuave.

Women who act like this tend to be fickle about everything. I highly doubt you will get far with her.
 

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If you want to keep up this "role-playing" bit up and if you are already friendly and comfortable...

Next time you meet her... sneak up on her.

Pop out of nowhere and whisper in her ear and ask her if she's "wired".

Tell her to face away from you, lift her arms straight outwards... then frisk her.

But of course, you're not being serious... don't freak her out.

I don't know what type of person you are and if that would seem over the edge... but it's something I would do.
 
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I'm not too worried about it. I can't wait to give her my middle eastern last name she will love that.
 

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Wow this thread is awesome.. i woudl love to play games like you and iqq i will give you some rep for the great combacks you offered.
 
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Prodigy746 said:
Wow this thread is awesome.. i woudl love to play games like you and iqq i will give you some rep for the great combacks you offered.

don't give Iqqi any reps until I get laid.. none of her advice has actually helped yet.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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OMG she is not giving up.. she just texted me

"that is still not your name. forget about it i like to know the names of people i go out to dinner with but thats ok"

LOL. she is trying to threaten me with the date now, if I don't give up my name? What a lame tactic. She has no sense of humor at ALL. She is going to run a check!

What all can she find out exactly??

I don't feel like some strange b!tch running a check on me.

What should I say?

BTW; I've already been triple background checked by the governemnt when I got my job so I don't have anything to hide.. but again what private stuff can she find out?
 

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Excellent.
EXCELLENT!
 
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why can't I just find a normal woman.. This is too much even for me.

I can't give her my last name now just out of not wanting my privacy invaded. Maybe I should make one up.

But I don't want her to think i'm hiding something.. maybe I should just next her now.

Maybe I should just give it to her? Keep toying with her? Help me out guys...
 

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forget about it i like to know the names of people i go out to dinner with but thats ok
And I like to get to know people before they stalk my paper trail. Tell you what - let's meet halfway and I will tell you my full name when we meet :)

If she doesnt bend, hit her with:

I thought you were a big bad secret agent.. you are scared of little old me? What would your sniper friends say?

If she STILL wont give, I say next her. B!tch does not have any sense of humor and the date would be boring anyway. Someone so rigid is probably terrible in the sack too.
 
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Señor Fingers said:
And I like to get to know people before they stalk my paper trail. Tell you what - let's meet halfway and I will tell you my full name when we meet :)

If she doesnt bend, hit her with:

I thought you were a big bad secret agent.. you are scared of little old me? What would your sniper friends say?

If she STILL wont give, I say next her. B!tch does not have any sense of humor and the date would be boring anyway. Someone so rigid is probably terrible in the sack too.
YESSSSSSSSS! Thank you master.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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