"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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i got a compliment at the gym, big motivator

BluEyes

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Word.

Just curious for some of you guys who've gotten compliments...How much focus do you put on cardio?

I do 30 minutes of intervals(2minutes fast walk, 1 minute run) seven days a week. Just wondering if it'd be worth ramping that to 45 minutes or sticking with 30.

I also lift 4 days a week. How many times a week do you guys work the "beach muscles"?(biceps, shoulders, pecs)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I don't even know or really care anymore what they compliment. I am working the lower V right now cause I guess that is the "in" thing, but I've always worked everything, especially legs
 

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BluEyes said:
Word.

Just curious for some of you guys who've gotten compliments...How much focus do you put on cardio?

I do 30 minutes of intervals(2minutes fast walk, 1 minute run) seven days a week. Just wondering if it'd be worth ramping that to 45 minutes or sticking with 30.

I also lift 4 days a week. How many times a week do you guys work the "beach muscles"?(biceps, shoulders, pecs)

40-50 min of treadmill walking in the morning. 2.7-3.2 mph at 6-8% incline.

Don't worry about beach muscles. Get giant legs and a strong back and the beach muscles will be huge.

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i had a friend at work the other day walk up to me and touch his finger to my traps. He wasn't sure if it was muscle and he thought he was going to push a puff in my shirt down but when he pushed hardness he was like "whoa." :)
 

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hahahah mrRuckus, thats funny, your friend wanted to make fun of you but it backfired. haha.
 

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a lot of chicks who rejected to me are now on my **** when they are drunk after i lifted and got big and lost a lot of weight. jealous fag guys make all sorts comments about why or how i got big, **** them they just jealous. I do it for myself and recommend you all do too! :D
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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funny how that is dipset dont u think
 

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I've had girls on dates ask "Why do you workout so much?" and been on same dates where when I wasn't drinking as much as them they got insecure about it. "How come you dont drink more beer with me?" - "Because I dont want a beer gut and water retention." Needless to say they usually feel pretty fat when I say that so I have been trying to be more tactful lately :) We'll see how it goes.
 

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I like my women sober...
 

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Charm said:
I've had girls on dates ask "Why do you workout so much?" and been on same dates where when I wasn't drinking as much as them they got insecure about it. "How come you dont drink more beer with me?" - "Because I dont want a beer gut and water retention." Needless to say they usually feel pretty fat when I say that so I have been trying to be more tactful lately :) We'll see how it goes.

lol a better way to put that "i'm just not a heavy drinker...i can party sober babe"
 

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Amen Skilla_Staz you don't need to drink to have a damn good time :woo:. I used to do some drinking but it never really caught on to me, I do take a occasional beer in the summer time but other then that pretty sober.

Short Thread Jack.

-I will begin using Mark Rippetoe's program starting Tuesday. I said I was going to start Sunday but that day am just going to go in and check my limits at the weights so I know them and don't waste time when I start lifting. Will be making a journal Monday or Tuesday. Hope to hear from all of you there.

Thread Jack done heh.

-Best compliments so far are how cute I am or my green eyes... hope to change that after I start lifting. (Not doing the lifting for girls but more like time for a change in my life)
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Not bad, keep up the good stuff you guys. I've been doing German Volume Training for the last four weeks, and it's been good to me. I'm up about 8 pounds in the past month, of which I will estimate that 5-6 pounds of that is muscle (all I know is I haven't had to get larger-waist jeans). I'm 219 now, at 6'1. I've been getting comments from guys that I'm getting buff and asking me what I do to get that way, and women don't directly compliment the muscles, but they compliment my shirts, and my shirts are athletic cut to be more form-fitting, we all know what they really mean.
 

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girl goes.. 'hey dude. you're pretty ripped. (pause) are you on steroids?"

:crackup:

FYI I'm 60kgs at 168cm, benchin 65, pulling 75, squat 110, deads 70.

and for the record. no :)
 

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are you all in highschool or something what kiddies girl would grap your muscles for no reason?.
i dont do weights only pushups and i lift boxes with rocks in them. i meade them into weights. and i bet i got better arms than some of you boys.

for me the comliment i got was a women about 40ish staring at my arms and chest for 4minutes glancing and looking away. maybe she wanted a mental picture she could use when she had sex with her boyfriend lol. mind you i was only 2 weeks into training then. when i was one week into training these teenage girls were all commenting on how broad my shoulders were.
 

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skeeloo why don't you lift weights? Lifting boxes with rocks in them just sounds silly. Do you go out and search for rocks and then carry them home? Where do you keep them?
the house im currently staying at is a house with the back was full of bricks and other stuff being used to build a garden house but they never finished it. so i couldnt afford the weights.

i pilled six burnt bricks each on top of each other. one for one arm and the other for another arm and i tied them up in a bag to give them an easy grip. basically i lift them one after the other. they made my shoulders so broad in two weeks i couldnt believe it. i combine them with push-ups. im kinda preparing my self for the gym.

last year i went to a gym. i was the skinniest guy there so i felt kinda shy. now i can walk into any gym with confidence. the turth is i might eventually not even sign up for a gym. i mean i know 2 guys who got so big doing push-ups everyday other day twice a day 800 sets morning and evening for 8months. and you'd think theyv gone to the gym but they never have seen the inside a gym before.
 

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Exp, you've gained 20lbs in 3 months?

What does your diet/routine look like, and how much sleep are you getting.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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