"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I've been dating this girl for 5 months now, and I've went down on her multiple times, but she hasn't given me oral sex, but shes admitted to giving oral sex to previous boyfriends. She'll also teases me by putting her mouth on my boxers, and would bring up stuff before sex like "wanna try anal or finish in my mouth" but never follow through

Ps: I've brought it up once and she said "You're really that desperate to get head".

What's your opinion on this?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I've been dating this girl for 5 months now, and I've went down on her multiple times, but she hasn't given me oral sex, but shes admitted to giving oral sex to previous boyfriends. She'll also teases me by putting her mouth on my boxers, and would bring up stuff before sex like "wanna try anal or finish in my mouth" but never follow through

Ps: I've brought it up once and she said "You're really that desperate to get head".

What's your opinion on this?
 

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If you want head and you aren't getting head, you're not getting what you want from the arrangement/relationship.

Girls blow guys who they respect, they don't blow little weedy guys. I noticed that when I become more dominant, I got more and better head. My main girl told me she didn't give head, now she blows me whenever I want and takes it anal style because she knows that I like it. She wants to please me, she knows that's her job. I give her oral occasionally as a treat but she's never said "if you don't do X, I won't do Y." She wouldn't dare.

Earn her respect and she'll blow you. :up:
 

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We never got into an argument about it she just got really defensive and said that.
 

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A man wants a blowj0b every now and then. Have some other girl give you one if she won't.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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She's playing you and she doesn't respect you. You don't use disparaging language towards somebody who you value through fear of them saying "f*ck you, I'm off."

Trust me, gain her respect by setting boundaries. There's no more licky licky for her until there's some sucky sucky for you. She's calling the shots, flip the script.
 

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that girl is up to something. Been into similar situation where i gave her an oral while she doesn't. That's one of the signs of a woman wanting to dominate in your relationship. She gave men before you a "treat" while you don't, she might mean you don't deserve to be rewarded with that yet. Tell her cut the bull*h*t and if she doesn't, you can always find some hotter ones that has no frills.
 

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mikey4245 said:
What if she holds out sex cause I wont licky licky?
Is that what's happening?

I'm not sure if I would even bring it up but if she actually expected you to go down I would calmly in a non butthurt way say "you first."

If she made an issue of it, particularly if she tries to manipulate you by withholding sex, I would laugh in her face and dump her.

The poster above is correct. This one is up to something. I'd be temped to go ahead and next her anyway based on what you've said has been going on. I have no idea what her deal is but telling you she's gone down before and won't but expects you to go down on her just screams manipulation in my book. Fvck that.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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This is why you need to be sleeping with multiple girls because then you can be the one who holds back the sex when she acts up.

People with serious wealth have multiple streams of income. One stream can get cut off then you're screwed. Why do you think companies like Samsung have their fingers in so many pies. If the mobile phone market goes up the creek, then they've got something else to fall back on. It's the same with girls, you can have your main chick but as soon as she starts acting up, you've got other things to fall back on so you will put up with less of her crap. Ironically that's when she starts to behave and respect you.

This girl isn't even giving you everything that you want, she's screwing you around so why give her exclusive access to your d!ck???

This is a long process but you want to be at the point where sex is something that's natural to you. Work out the kind of lifestyle you want, then go and get it. Let her hold back sex, laugh in your face, if you're not living on your terms, you're living on your knees.
 

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mikey4245 said:
What if she holds out sex cause I wont licky licky?

If she holds out sex coz you don't give her an oral, then tell her she might as well call her f*cking ex's she gave an oral with and let him lick it for her. Then get your clothes on and don't bother going back again.
 

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mikey4245 said:
I've been dating this girl for 5 months now, and I've went down on her multiple times, but she hasn't given me oral sex, but shes admitted to giving oral sex to previous boyfriends. She'll also teases me by putting her mouth on my boxers, and would bring up stuff before sex like "wanna try anal or finish in my mouth" but never follow through

Ps: I've brought it up once and she said "You're really that desperate to get head".

What's your opinion on this?
Dominate her throw her up the wall and rip her close off - then push her head down where you want it.... no need to be nice ;) .
 

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She's not as into you as you think. I suggest upping your frame of dominance. If she valued you enough in her chick mind as her previous boyfriends, or Brad Pitt, she'd be sucking it like a champ, remember that.

Talking about this with her only worsens the situation.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dump her. Sexual compatibility matters a lot. She sounds boring and sexually selfish. Resentment will only grow from this.

This is exactly why I don't commit until I'm sure various points of compatibility exist.
 

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When your making out and begin to move down on her.. Move into a 69 position (spooning style is best so your ass is not in her face or her on top). Move past her ***** to her feet. Rub her feet a bit and slowly move back up. Once you get to her puzzy your dyck will be in her face. I'm sure she will figure it out from there.

Epi
 

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Mauser96 said:
I don't think the problem Epi is that she doesn't know what to do....she admits to having done it with other boyfriends. Unless she is really young and lying to look experienced.
I agree. Epi's advice is pretty much useless in this situation. With a virgin? Sure, it might work.

Mauser96 said:
I think the problem is, she is not real big on doing it, but likes having her snatch tongued.
I disagree here. She'll do it, just not with somebody she doesn't respect.

You guys are trying to make this broad out to be some type of selfish b*tch. That's rookie takes. At heart, she's just a woman. She'd suck the skin off his c*ck if she felt like he was a man of value to her.
 

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^ The reality is that not every woman enjoys oral sex. If his girlfriend is that kind of woman, he should find someone more compatible with him.

Don't make the silly assumption that every girl enjoys oral sex. Many do not. What his girlfriend did in the pass could have simply been just to please the other guys even though she wasn't really into it.
 

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Jaylan said:
^ The reality is that not every woman enjoys oral sex. If his girlfriend is that kind of woman, he should find someone more compatible with him.

Don't make the silly assumption that every girl enjoys oral sex. Many do not. What his girlfriend did in the pass could have simply been just to please the other guys even though she wasn't really into it.
So why should she stop now? I'm sure he does stuff that he doesn't want to do just to please her..She needs to just suck it up (literally.)

She just wants to be selfish.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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