I give up...

[nishbuk]

Originally posted by BxPrince24
... When I start out, the drive is there, believe me it is...

I don't believe you. I don't think you've ever experienced what it REALLY means to BE DRIVEN to get something. To be so passionate about it, that you know deep within yourself that it's going to happen, and that you are going to MAKE it happen. You don't have drive. Stop lying to yourself.
Drive is something that last until THE JOB IS COMPLETE.

I believe you might need to reevaluate your life goals. You say art is your passion, are you going where you want to with it? Or are you just lazing about doing it all the time but without direction? I would bet a very large sum of money based on how you post, and the attitude you display that the answer is no, you're not pushing yourself to be truly successful in your art. You're probably just "doing it" cause you like it.
Guy, the problem is still you...It's something about your attitude and your innerself. You lack "passion for life", and "the fighter spirit". Those are the two things that are most attractive. Above looks, above charm. Success, and more importantly, the DRIVE to succeed are attractive. They always are.

 

[BxPrince24]

Originally posted by Stag
Of course not. Out of everything else right now, I guess that I'm really lacking the drive to keep at it. Right now, it ain't even about getting laid, it's about just getting a gf first. I see many girls that I could talk to but I don't because "I don't feel like it". I could have probably had a girl already if I were trying. But I haven't been, and I've been letting the possibles walk right on by. And it truly is a numbers game, the more you talk to the better chance you have and the more you will learn.

I guess I'll see how tomorrow goes...

Hahahaha. See, you are actually an excuser. You say you dont feel like meeting girls. here is the problem. Of course you do, but society has programmed you to feel tired, or not feel like it, or whatever, to stop you from mating wih hot chicks. Work on first seeing those exvcuses that are stoping you. Yo have to be aware of them first. [/QUOTE]

I guess I am... For example, if I'm on the train and I see a hot girl and she seems interested, I dont bother going to talk to her because I don't want to lose my seat and stand the rest of the ride and I might be taking a walk over to her to be rejected so I lose my seat and wated my time.

Or another example, I'm walking down the street, see a cute girl and I smile, she smiles, I continue walking. Why? Because I don't feel like stopping and/or waste time on what might be a rejection. I guess you can say I've become lazy when it comes to that. If any of you guys watch anime, Naruto in particular, you could relate me to shikamaru. He's laid back and hates doing things that puts him out of his way, etc..

 

[BxPrince24]

Originally posted by nishbuk
I don't believe you. I don't think you've ever experienced what it REALLY means to BE DRIVEN to get something. To be so passionate about it, that you know deep within yourself that it's going to happen, and that you are going to MAKE it happen. You don't have drive. Stop lying to yourself.
Drive is something that last until THE JOB IS COMPLETE.

I believe you might need to reevaluate your life goals. You say art is your passion, are you going where you want to with it? Or are you just lazing about doing it all the time but without direction? I would bet a very large sum of money based on how you post, and the attitude you display that the answer is no, you're not pushing yourself to be truly successful in your art. You're probably just "doing it" cause you like it.
Guy, the problem is still you...It's something about your attitude and your innerself. You lack "passion for life", and "the fighter spirit". Those are the two things that are most attractive. Above looks, above charm. Success, and more importantly, the DRIVE to succeed are attractive. They always are.

I have DRIVE buddy, but it lies with my priorities. You want to see an example of my drive to do and complete things? Here we have an art contest where my position as rank 2 artist in the school was challenged, I was not going to be beaten and I busted my ass to defeat this guy and even surpass the rank1 artist. I slaved away for 4 days on a drawing that won me my rank in the school.

That would not have been the way it is if I didn't have the drive to do it and surpass my limits. It's just that getting a girl isn't in my top priorities, though I do want one.

 

[JonJack]

Originally posted by nishbuk
I don't believe you. I don't think you've ever experienced what it REALLY means to BE DRIVEN to get something. To be so passionate about it, that you know deep within yourself that it's going to happen, and that you are going to MAKE it happen. You don't have drive. Stop lying to yourself.
Drive is something that last until THE JOB IS COMPLETE.

I believe you might need to reevaluate your life goals. You say art is your passion, are you going where you want to with it? Or are you just lazing about doing it all the time but without direction? I would bet a very large sum of money based on how you post, and the attitude you display that the answer is no, you're not pushing yourself to be truly successful in your art. You're probably just "doing it" cause you like it.
Guy, the problem is still you...It's something about your attitude and your innerself. You lack "passion for life", and "the fighter spirit". Those are the two things that are most attractive. Above looks, above charm. Success, and more importantly, the DRIVE to succeed are attractive. They always are.

Exactly! Nobody likes a loser.

Being "fed up" with all of it is not a sign of being at peace with your predicament. You're clearly unsatisfied with things and instead of doing everything that it takes to get what you clearly want, you try to think your way out of getting it. You create excuses of why it isn't worth what it takes to get it. If you honestly accepted this fact, you wouldn't even have an ounce of desire to get a girl. It would mean nothing to you and you wouldn't be talking about it unless asked to.

When you can honestly tell yourself that not having a girl is better than actually having one, only then are you at peace with yourself. Otherwise, you will still continue to struggle with it.

 

[BxPrince24]

Lack drive or passion in my artwork? Never! I always try to outdue myself, I practice everyday to get better. Studying anatomy, shading techniques, using different mediums, etc... Art is the MOST important thing to me and if I didn't take it seriously I wouldn't be at the School of Visual Arts today getting my Bachelors in this field. I've been drawing since the 3rd grade and I have worked hard at it year after year. It's how I express myself, create entertainment, and let people into my world. To even think that I would do it just to do it would be an insult.

 

[BxPrince24]

Originally posted by JonJack
Exactly! Nobody likes a loser.

Being "fed up" with all of it is not a sign of being at peace with your predicament. You're clearly unsatisfied with things and instead of doing everything that it takes to get what you clearly want, you try to think your way out of getting it. You create excuses of why it isn't worth what it takes to get it. If you honestly accepted this fact, you wouldn't even have an ounce of desire to get a girl. It would mean nothing to you and you wouldn't be talking about it unless asked to.

When you can honestly tell yourself that not having a girl is better than actually having one, only then are you at peace with yourself. Otherwise, you will still continue to struggle with it.

And I can't come to that conclusion without the experience of being in a relationship. But yes I have lost te desire and now it's not something that I worry about, though I do want one, not badly though. So you are right in some aspects.

 

[MindOverMatter]

the problem with you is that you want a girlfriend. you have prolly been alone for a long time, or have never had relationship intimacy, and you want this. in reality, this is your main downfall.

when you want a relationship, you will act a lot differently then when you don't want one, and you will subconciously sabotage yourself. girls sense this needy behavior, that's why they lose interest in you.

instead, just go out with them, and have fun. avoid giving any hints that you want a relationship. and don't focus on just one girl at a time. eventually you'll snap out of this "wanting a relationship" phase, and that's when girls will start wanting to have a relationship with you.

every serious gf i've had chased me, and had to put up with my disinterest. and this wasn't fake disinterest that the bible teaches you (i.e. dont call for 3 days, even tho you really want to call), i simply didn't want a relationship with them and was avoiding them. in the end, that made them work harder for it, and eventually i gave them a shot, since they earned it.

 

[JonJack]

Originally posted by BxPrince24
And I can't come to that conclusion without the experience of being in a relationship. But yes I have lost te desire and now it's not something that I worry about, though I do want one, not badly though. So you are right in some aspects.

Now I'll ask you this:

You do want a girl but not badly enough to do exactly what?

You mention not being able to find one that you are attracted to. Have you come to the conclusion that it's impossible to find one that you would be attracted to? Or is it just a small probability? How do you basically measure your chances?

Would finding a girl that you are attracted to be one of the best things to happen to you?

 

[BxPrince24]

Originally posted by JonJack
Now I'll ask you this:

You do want a girl but not badly enough to do exactly what?

You mention not being able to find one that you are attracted to. Have you come to the conclusion that it's impossible to find one that you would be attracted to? Or is it just a small probability? How do you basically measure your chances?

Would finding a girl that you are attracted to be one of the best things to happen to you?

I do want a girl, but not badly enough to make it my top priority. I actually see a lot of girls that I'm attracted to but like I said, as of late I haven't spoken to them, and when I did it was a rejection or excuse (i.e. boyfriend, etc...). It's not impossible to fing a girl that I like. I like anything from average up. average for me would be a cute face, ok body brown to light complexion, everything else like a bigger booty, breasts, long hair, real cute, etc... would all be a plus. Finding a girl I'm attracted to wouldn't be the best thing that happened to me, being in a relationship with a girl i'm attracted to would come close to the best thing that's ever happened to me.

 

[BxPrince24]

Originally posted by MindOverMatter
the problem with you is that you want a girlfriend. you have prolly been alone for a long time, or have never had relationship intimacy, and you want this. in reality, this is your main downfall.

when you want a relationship, you will act a lot differently then when you don't want one, and you will subconciously sabotage yourself. girls sense this needy behavior, that's why they lose interest in you.

instead, just go out with them, and have fun. avoid giving any hints that you want a relationship. and don't focus on just one girl at a time. eventually you'll snap out of this "wanting a relationship" phase, and that's when girls will start wanting to have a relationship with you.

every serious gf i've had chased me, and had to put up with my disinterest. and this wasn't fake disinterest that the bible teaches you (i.e. dont call for 3 days, even tho you really want to call), i simply didn't want a relationship with them and was avoiding them. in the end, that made them work harder for it, and eventually i gave them a shot, since they earned it.

I've only been close to having a gf one time in my life, when I was in the 6th grade. And I lost her due to the fact that I was an AFC back then. We got as far as kissing (no tongue though), going out together, chilling together, etc... But that's not a time I want to remember. she left me and hooked up with me ex best friend. So I don't consider what me and her had to be anything.

 

[JonJack]

Originally posted by BxPrince24
I do want a girl, but not badly enough to make it my top priority. I actually see a lot of girls that I'm attracted to but like I said, as of late I haven't spoken to them, and when I did it was a rejection or excuse (i.e. boyfriend, etc...). It's not impossible to fing a girl that I like. I like anything from average up. average for me would be a cute face, ok body brown to light complexion, everything else like a bigger booty, breasts, long hair, real cute, etc... would all be a plus. Finding a girl I'm attracted to wouldn't be the best thing that happened to me, being in a relationship with a girl i'm attracted to would come close to the best thing that's ever happened to me.

So, being in a relationship with an attractive girl would be the objective here. Of course, to do that you would have to approach the girls that you are attracted to. And hit it over and over and over again. I can understand how you may not put it as your top priority. If you hit on most of the girls you find attractive, then you're on the right track.

But please don't deny yourself the chances that may come your way. If you see one, open your eyes, focus on her and do your best. The key is to keep on doing it until you find one. I assure you the feeling when you finally do will be 100 times better than anything you've experienced before. Remember that feeling if that relationship should fail. Because that's what all that heartache you went through was for.

 

[Zhen]

improve yourself

you've got the art.

get in shape.

 

[BxPrince24]

Re: improve yourself

Originally posted by Zhen
you've got the art.

get in shape.

Yea I have a little belly I need to get rid of, it's not noticable that muc though. But there's a gym nearby my campus I'm going to check out so at least I can do that.

 

[griffon65]

Well if your doing everything right like you say then mabye the probelm is you have too high of a standerd. Now I have no idea what you look like so this is just speculation but if your like a 6 or below and are only trying to hook up with girls that are 8,9, and 10's then your gonna have a problem.

These girls are getting approached by guys who are more attractive all the time and some may have just as much or more game then you. Who do you think they are gonna choose?

 

[BxPrince24]

Originally posted by griffon65
Well if your doing everything right like you say then mabye the probelm is you have too high of a standerd. Now I have no idea what you look like so this is just speculation but if your like a 6 or below and are only trying to hook up with girls that are 8,9, and 10's then your gonna have a problem.

These girls are getting approached by guys who are more attractive all the time and some may have just as much or more game then you. Who do you think they are gonna choose?

Yea, I know that. And there are many guys who are more attractive than me. That's another reason why I kinda felt like giving up. But anyways, here's a few pics of me.

And here are some pics of my female friends. It's sad, all of my friends left away for college so it's like I have to start from scratch again.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4567/im0000367dk.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6250/im0000153jl.jpg
She's my mother's friend, we're pretty cool with eachother though. She acts like I'm her husband and I act like she's my wife.

http://i001.sconex.com/photo/pap_001_Q8_11061121737063_MAX.jpg

http://i000.sconex.com/photo/pap_000_B3_32761121736867_MAX.jpg

http://i000.sconex.com/photo/pap_000_T0_18561121736145_MAX.jpg

http://i001.sconex.com/photo/pap_001_T5_1311121736216_MAX.jpg

http://i001.sconex.com/photo/pap_001_L3_95511121736966_MAX.jpg

http://i001.sconex.com/photo/pap_001_Q8_11061121737063_MAX.jpg

http://i001.sconex.com/photo/pap_001_J8_76641121737119_MAX.jpg

 

[griffon65]

Now that I see the pics I dont think your aiming way to high. Just keep doing what your doing, and improve upon any mistakes you come accross. If you give it enough time you'll land the girl your looking for.

 

[BxPrince24]

Well... My attitude right now is pretty much "I don't care". And after some soul searching I think that I don't really want a girlfriend. Maybe I just want a piece of ass. But whatever.

I was supposed to go on a date with a girl tomorrow but her friend kept bugging her to come along so now it's the 3 of us. I don't care though, I'm going to Lazer Park to enjoy myself, I just asked if she wanted to come along. I'd be going whether she came or not.

We'll see how it goes...