"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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"I get over guys really quickly"

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Met this HB6.5 last night while out at a cafe in the car park. We talked for say 5 minutes while she was set to leave and I was going in the place. Was good conversation a lot of flirting I was acting a lot more aggressive then usual for me e.g. making her give me a kiss and a hug before she got in her car. I asked for her number she said give me yours so I did then she said I'll ring you I said it doesn't work that way and 10 seconds later she gave me hers. I said I'll call you sometime to go out she was just so excited.

I walked into the cafe thinking maybe I been too aggressive and didn't feel good about her saying give me your number and I'll ring you because that just shows LI and intention to flake. I get into the cafe sit down and she sends me a message saying "you and your kisses and hugs haha". So that made me believe my aggression to this stranger shook her up and made me stand out of the crowd big time.

Long story short few messages later she says "you know you could get hotter women then me I don't know why you showed so much interest in me... I find it hard to stay interested in one guy for long I get bored easily but you do seem so fun and we got along really well". I basically replied telling her to stop overthinking and analyzing we just met I will ring you later and we'll go out. She said okay didn't mean to be overthinking just don't want you to get your hopes up.

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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Translates to "I'm still in love with my first ex ever/ noone will ever match up to the incredibly high standards I have"
 

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What you said about girls calling guys was good but you should have said it without giving her your number. Only after you get hers should you give yours: get her number say here I'll text you so you'll have mine and just send it to her AFTER you have hers.

She is interested but defensive in the sense that she thinks you are like other guys who use her short term and move on, thus she is preempting with the I get bored and don't get your hopes up stuff.

So, play it cool like you have been (e.g. telling her to relax), definitely call her in a couple days but 1) take control and be in charge, 2) have the attitude that if she tests you or flakes you don't care because she is a 6.5 and you've got 7.5s waiting for you, 3) you've already kiss closed so definitely get some kino going next time you see her; don't kiss her when you first see her next time -- just hug her and touch her arm or back -- but during the date -- not at the end -- find an appropriate venue and kiss her. She is more likely to invite you in to her place at the end of the date since the kissing has already happened twice.
 

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For_F said:
Long story short few messages later she says "you know you could get hotter women then me I don't know why you showed so much interest in me... I find it hard to stay interested in one guy for long I get bored easily but you do seem so fun and we got along really well".
"True, but looks aren't everything are they?"
 

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DonJuanabe said:
What you said about girls calling guys was good but you should have said it without giving her your number. Only after you get hers should you give yours: get her number say here I'll text you so you'll have mine and just send it to her AFTER you have hers.

She is interested but defensive in the sense that she thinks you are like other guys who use her short term and move on, thus she is preempting with the I get bored and don't get your hopes up stuff.

So, play it cool like you have been (e.g. telling her to relax), definitely call her in a couple days but 1) take control and be in charge, 2) have the attitude that if she tests you or flakes you don't care because she is a 6.5 and you've got 7.5s waiting for you, 3) you've already kiss closed so definitely get some kino going next time you see her; don't kiss her when you first see her next time -- just hug her and touch her arm or back -- but during the date -- not at the end -- find an appropriate venue and kiss her. She is more likely to invite you in to her place at the end of the date since the kissing has already happened twice.
Thank for the advice bro. True she is 6.5 to me my mates who saw her think she's higher then that but I don't. She seems like the type of girl who relies on the male to initiate a lot I've experienced this type of girl several times.

Dudes I seriously sometimes cannot be fvcked with these games and techniques and the whole journey of going from semi-afc to DJ.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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For_F said:
Thank for the advice bro. True she is 6.5 to me my mates who saw her think she's higher then that but I don't. She seems like the type of girl who relies on the male to initiate a lot I've experienced this type of girl several times.

Dudes I seriously sometimes cannot be fvcked with these games and techniques and the whole journey of going from semi-afc to DJ.
Sounds to me like she wants to fvck. Stay aggressive and strike while the irons hot
 

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Kinda sounds like an anti-slut defense, doesn't it? I would keep engaging and being the same guy she decided to kiss and hug in the parking lot.
 

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"I get over guys really quickly" is a defensive mechanism. She's actually really just insecure. What that statement really means is the exact opposite, she clings on to guys very quickly, especially ones that she considers herself "not good enough for". She's basically just reassuring herself that you won't pump and dump her like every other guy.

-Scars
 

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Scars said:
"I get over guys really quickly" is a defensive mechanism. She's actually really just insecure. What that statement really means is the exact opposite, she clings on to guys very quickly, especially ones that she considers herself "not good enough for". She's basically just reassuring herself that you won't pump and dump her like every other guy.

-Scars
these are my thoughts too.
 

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LOL at what happened today with this chick. I sent her a jokey message during work and was going to call her tonight to organise something for Wednesday night. She obviously didn't get the joke or didn't find it funny because she replied with a question mark.

I was in a silly mood so I just wrote a question mark back at her and then a few more, have done this with girls in the past who had high interest and they either said you're silly stop with the question marks or would rapidly write question marks back. Anyway, she said, stop it otherwise I will fvcking stop talking to you. I got pretty surprised by this and just wrote, you'll stop talking to me because I wrote a few question marks?

She replied saying yes it's fvcking annoying so yes, I will stop talking to you. I replied saying stop swearing what kind of woman are you? Yeah okay, might have annoyed you but how immature are you to threaten to stop talking to me because of that? You could have just said it was annoying and could I stop which I would have. I think you should apologise for being so rude to me.

She then replied saying why the fvcuk should I apologise? You p1ssed me off, I can say what I want to say.

Me: If you're having a bad day don't take it out on me. I hope soon you'll realise how ridiculous you sound.
Her: Actually no, I'm not sounding ridiculous. And it's nothing else, you are making me angry.

Me: If you want to continue acting this way then you can get fvcked.
Her: Fine, I will.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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For_F said:
LOL at what happened today with this chick. I sent her a jokey message during work and was going to call her tonight to organise something for Wednesday night. She obviously didn't get the joke or didn't find it funny because she replied with a question mark.

I was in a silly mood so I just wrote a question mark back at her and then a few more, have done this with girls in the past who had high interest and they either said you're silly stop with the question marks or would rapidly write question marks back. Anyway, she said, stop it otherwise I will fvcking stop talking to you. I got pretty surprised by this and just wrote, you'll stop talking to me because I wrote a few question marks?

She replied saying yes it's fvcking annoying so yes, I will stop talking to you. I replied saying stop swearing what kind of woman are you? Yeah okay, might have annoyed you but how immature are you to threaten to stop talking to me because of that? You could have just said it was annoying and could I stop which I would have. I think you should apologise for being so rude to me.

She then replied saying why the fvcuk should I apologise? You p1ssed me off, I can say what I want to say.

Me: If you're having a bad day don't take it out on me. I hope soon you'll realise how ridiculous you sound.
Her: Actually no, I'm not sounding ridiculous. And it's nothing else, you are making me angry.

Me: If you want to continue acting this way then you can get fvcked.
Her: Fine, I will.
You two are arguing after the first date. She has too much of a controlling tendency. I'm not sure it will work out.

But for the future if she accuses you of sh!t over text, don't start accusing her of sh!t over text. No need to stoop to petty text message insults like she is doing. Either ignore her until she sends a more agreeable text, or find a way to diffuse the situation with humor or ridiculousness. Heartiste has a lot of posts on this.

Just from what I read if you try to enter this relationship it will be you the one doing most of the compromising.
 
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I'd have just told her to "eat sh*t" and left it at that. This girl sounds Marek Mintal.
 

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Yeah I'm nexting this b1tch. I'm finding myself in quite frequent confrontations with women -I believed because I call them out on being stupid/unreliable. I'm beginning to think Im being too confrontational but how does one balance striving for as much pvssy as possible with being a man who does not sacrifice his pride and self worth for women who mean nothing but sex?
 

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Holy hell..what a b*tch. I would have quit responding as soon as she threatened to quit talking to me and deleted her number. She poured you a full glass of who she really is in that exchange. Crazy
 
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For_F, I have the same problem where I can really come off as a dick. Maybe I'm just a grouchy old guy, but I can intimidate the hell out of people sometimes. Especially women.

As for striking the right balance, I think it has to be about being centered and feeling comfortable with your life. I don't have that right now and maybe you don't either. I read your other thread about your ex and maybe that's not so much about your ex, but about where you are in your life right now. That could be affecting your interactions with females (and also with everyone else around you).

I find myself wondering what the hell I'm doing now, you know?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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