"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I found a good woman, and other thoughts...

basbhat

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Hey guys,

The past two years I have been quite involved in improving myself and dating occasionally when I have had time. Unfortunately, all of the women I have dated have ended up being too slutty, one night stand material, and I could not find a girl who I actually LIKED!

For once, I've found a girl I like(at least so far.....one date and counting! I actually am dating 2 girls presently, but I am more interested in one than the other...). Though I have only went on one date with her, I sense she is a very responsible, sweet, sexy, and loving person(I am aware of what oneitis is-I don't have it!) This is the kind of girl I want to date!! I'm actually excited by the person, and not the prospects of getting some. I also believe she is interested in me(gave me "the eyes" all night, kept close contact, occasionally grabbed me, gave me a "sample massage", and asked me if I was enjoying myself, etc....I assume these are all good signs! She even told me she was all nervous when I asked for her #-I met her on a cold approach, got the # and the first date...)

I'm 25 yrs. old and have dated some really crappy women. I have my life together, am confident with women, and always trying to improve myself. I expect to meet someone who is close to the same, but have found it very hard.

Guys, when you meet or have met someone that you really liked, how did you handle yourself? I find myself looking at all of the postive things that happened on the date between us, yet there is this little demon that says,"She is not interested-you need more proof!". I guess having had bad relationships and no luck when it comes to actually dating a cool girl, has left me with a "Maybe I don't deserve to find a good relationship" mentality.

Unfortunately, I believe the way I have viewed women as objects of lustful fulfillment, has really hindered my ability to seek out positive relationships(not all this bang a chick, then the next one crap...Makes me feel like trash..). I know what to do with women(when to call, how to act, etc.), but it is this feeling of insecurity that has led me to post.

I know it is stupid to ask questions like, "Is she interested?, How do I set up the 2nd date?, etc. I know it all comes down to confidence. Yet, confidence doesn't fill the void. I can be confident until my head pops off and a girl may or may not like me. I just wanted to write this for the hell of it. Thanks guys, peace
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Right outside of a grocery store...She was on her lunch break with some friends. I chatted her and her friends up and # closed.
 

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To break the ice I made eye contact w/ her, smiled, and said "hey, what's your name?....I noticed all of you girls have nice smiles...(all of the girls teeth were really white-they really stood out-and it turns out they all worked at the dentist together!) and proceeded from there. Just a sincere smile and a sincere compliment! All of the girls were instantly receptive. I actually didn't even have to ask for her # directly-she kind of knew the drill! I knew that she was checking me out before I approaced as well...peace!
 

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NO! NO! NO! you need to NEG her! GOD!...




just kidding ,good job dude :cheer:


sometimes it's easiest to be confident but it's the hardest to
be vulnerable enough to be sincere and genuine when it matters most :(
 

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Don't get swept up in the community and all the one-itis bashing. Some guys here I think quit this stuff too quickly, as soon as they find a warm body. Others, they get so caught up in building a "lifestyle" that they chuck great girls aside and end up spinning their wheels, and wind up worse of than when they began.

If you really like her, and she feels the same way, go for it. There is no shame in doing PU, or quitting PU for a special girl.

Keep yourself open to the idea of a relationshp with her, or the idea of NEXTING her. Don't rush in, and don't freeze out.

Do what feels right.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Originally posted by Sargeholic
Some guys here I think quit this stuff too quickly, as soon as they find a warm body.




:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
i know after the first 3 girls i'd end up chosing which one
i liked the most and just stick with her for the next 8-10 months!
soo much for my game!

is it soo wrong that i enjoy kickin' it with a chick and just lay
around,watch TV and eat beef jerky on a friday night?
of course not! :woo:
 
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