“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I finally did it...i called a girl on the phone.

killerasp

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Well, ive called many girls on the phone before but this time it was on the sole intent on asking a girl out.

The convestation went well. I made some C&F jokes. But i realized how dull i sound on the phone. In real life, im laughing, joking around, not caring about how my voice sounds. But on the phone, i cant help but sound like a stiff. Not sure why, something i need to work on.

Needless to say, i wanted to go out tomorrow afternoon but she has class till the evening.

Her loss.

I figure the next time i see her, i suggest "we should get together".

I was reading on the DJ forums/bible that if a girl keeps rejecting you, you should tell her what times you are available and tell her to to call you if she wants to go out. What do you guys think about that? Sounds unconventinal, but reasonable.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Well, usually after the second rejection, I will say something along the lines as "well you have my number so I will talk to you later" I won't directly mention a date just so there won't be to much pressure if she decides to call me up in the future.

Don't worry about how you sound on the phone since you won't be spending too much time on it anyway.
 

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OKay. I had left a really C&F away msg and she IM's me afterwords:

hey. I just wanna make sure you understood what i was saying earlier on the phone. I'd definitely like to join you sometime for dinner--tomorrow's just not a good night for me.:-D Have a good night.
i guess she was feeling guilty.
 

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Congrats on calling and taking the first step. It does take balls.

No reason to start being a wuss now. If you see her again, ask her out. Don't "suggest" or "wonder" anything, and certainly come up with something better than "getting together."

Always make solid plans for a time and day. Even just for coffee. Coffee is definite, and Thursday afternoon at 2PM is solid. You need her to say "yes" or "no."

It honestly doesn't look good if she didn't counter with alternate plans. If you asked to meet at a certain time, like tomorrow afternoon, and she declined _without_ a counteroffer, she's not interested. If she wants to see you, she'll tell you when she's free.

Oh well, her loss as you say. Don't waste much more time on her. Sounds like you're in college or something, you lucky bastard. Go find more girls.
 

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Originally posted by MisterAl

It honestly doesn't look good if she didn't counter with alternate plans. If you asked to meet at a certain time, like tomorrow afternoon, and she declined _without_ a counteroffer, she's not interested. If she wants to see you, she'll tell you when she's free.
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After reading my last post, can you still say this?
 

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be careful

Originally posted by killerasp
After reading my last post, can you still say this?
You would not believe how far girls will take this. They will deny they were turning you down and will be so convincing about it. That could be what's happening here.

If it were me in this case, I'd put her on the back burner, and here's why. Yeah she said that, but she didn't say a specific time when she would. Specificity is usually the thing that reveals what's really going on.

So in this case I would say be a bit skeptical but don't count her out all together without trying again.
 

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You made a very good point. Most of the people here say that since she didnt give an alternative time and place, it doesnt look good. Well, im going to give it the benefit of the doubt. There could be reasons as to why she didnt give another time and place, hellz you could be right and she wouldnt be intersted in me. But there is no harm in being somewhat persistant.
 

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Ask her one more time, for a specific place/time/activity. If she STILL declines, and doesn't re-offer, you know you're whistling in the wind.
 
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