****. Tonight I feel worse than I have in a while. Lately, things have been going really good for me. My life is getting in order, I am meeting more women. Thing is I went out with my social group tonight, was telling all my good stories about my hooking up this week. I get to the ****in BAr/Club and I can't even ****in talk to a girl properly. I got some serious IOI's from girls and went to talk to two that stick out in my mind. I have the balls go up to talk to one and the other just stands there waiting for me to say something. All I can ****in say is do you go to school? Do you come here often? You look bored? etcWTF. I ask for the number for one and she says she has a BF to let me down easy. WTF is wrong with me. I feel ****ing like a loser to be honest. Then to top it off at the end when the bar is closing I pass by the girl who flaked on me one time to meet at a bar and she doesnt even acknowledge I exist. Then when everyone is going home and parking lot pimpin I see this fool with the flake going home with her to no doubtedly **** her brains out. I see all these people about to hook up and it makes me feel like ****. I know I am better than this. All I ****in had all night was some ugly ass cougars trying to touch me and get me to take them home. I cant even keep a ****in conversation without boring the **** out of these girls. It seriously hurts real bad. I know I sound like a ***** but **** something has to give. No girls wanted to dance. I look like a ***** in front of my group whom I claim to be the leader. **** its irratating. Wtf can I do to stop this ****??? How do I get these chicks to see the real me, I know I am high value but when it comes down to crunch time I couldn't perform. Any suggestions?
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I feel like **** to be honest
- Thread starter Don_Jaime
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
DonJuanit0
Master Don Juan
You can always get some ideas from this very forum... There are many ppl who post FRs saying how they make their moves on girls, if they succed or not! The most difficult thing to do is make the move in my opinion not what to say! Cause you can easily learn/copy things to say to women... Just search this forum m8 and you will get the ideas you need... You don't need to feel like **** cause of that btw! 
Mike32ct
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I know how you feel. There is NOTHING worse than seeing a chick that blew you off leave with another guy. But it does happen. You will have some bad nights. It's part of this game.
WC2
Master Don Juan
You're overthinking.
You could've said ANYTHING to these girls and instead you became nervous and started thinking too much and just went for the interview style approach.
The best thing to say to women is exactly what's on your mind at the moment, because after all it's genuine.
Off the top of my head, if I saw two girls at the club I thought were smoking, I'd go up and ask them if they're dating. Or maybe I'd ask them which one is most likely to have a threesome with me.
Instead you're asking them questions like, "What's your major?" or "Where do you goto school?" Yeah, that'll makem' nice and wet in the panties won't it.
You see these serious questions come later after you've actually sparked a woman's emotions. By opening with something funny and out of the ordinary, you hit girls' emotional notches. They are like "ohh he's talking about threesomes I wonder if he's ever had one.. I wonder what type of guy he is sexually."
RIGHT away these questions are attention getters.
Yeah, some of the time girls will just look at you as if you are a creep. But you persist. "No, really I had a threesome with 2 chicks who looked just like you.. not as classy as you 2, but all the same. What you've never had a threesome?"
or if you opened asking them if they were dating
"Ha, no really, not saying you two look like dykes or anything but I just noticed you two look pretty touchy-feely."
Obviously a blatant lie, I never saw them being touchy-feely. However girls are so self-conscious that they'll buy whatever you say about them. They'll probably be like 'really? haha i didn't know maybe I am a little bit of a dyke'.
Look at it this way. Women are used to dealing with these type of men who either
1. Say nothing and stare at them
or
2. Ask them what their names is, where they're from, etc, etc.
OR
3. The guy who doesn't really give a sh!t and is there to have a good time, not necessarily just to hit on them.
And then most importantly, once you've made your appearance and said your piece, you walk away, with or without a number. Don't just sit there and let the conversation get stale. You're a pimp, you have other exciting conversations to attend to. These chicks are beat. For now, at least.
Just by the way you talk in your post I can tell you're not socially awkward; just a little gunshy when it comes to women. So use your abilities and talk to women just as you would your friends; without a care in mind.
You could've said ANYTHING to these girls and instead you became nervous and started thinking too much and just went for the interview style approach.
The best thing to say to women is exactly what's on your mind at the moment, because after all it's genuine.
Off the top of my head, if I saw two girls at the club I thought were smoking, I'd go up and ask them if they're dating. Or maybe I'd ask them which one is most likely to have a threesome with me.
Instead you're asking them questions like, "What's your major?" or "Where do you goto school?" Yeah, that'll makem' nice and wet in the panties won't it.
You see these serious questions come later after you've actually sparked a woman's emotions. By opening with something funny and out of the ordinary, you hit girls' emotional notches. They are like "ohh he's talking about threesomes I wonder if he's ever had one.. I wonder what type of guy he is sexually."
RIGHT away these questions are attention getters.
Yeah, some of the time girls will just look at you as if you are a creep. But you persist. "No, really I had a threesome with 2 chicks who looked just like you.. not as classy as you 2, but all the same. What you've never had a threesome?"
or if you opened asking them if they were dating
"Ha, no really, not saying you two look like dykes or anything but I just noticed you two look pretty touchy-feely."
Obviously a blatant lie, I never saw them being touchy-feely. However girls are so self-conscious that they'll buy whatever you say about them. They'll probably be like 'really? haha i didn't know maybe I am a little bit of a dyke'.
Look at it this way. Women are used to dealing with these type of men who either
1. Say nothing and stare at them
or
2. Ask them what their names is, where they're from, etc, etc.
OR
3. The guy who doesn't really give a sh!t and is there to have a good time, not necessarily just to hit on them.
And then most importantly, once you've made your appearance and said your piece, you walk away, with or without a number. Don't just sit there and let the conversation get stale. You're a pimp, you have other exciting conversations to attend to. These chicks are beat. For now, at least.
Just by the way you talk in your post I can tell you're not socially awkward; just a little gunshy when it comes to women. So use your abilities and talk to women just as you would your friends; without a care in mind.